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Glamorganshire / Re: More Lloyd enquiries
« on: Saturday 14 August 04 09:20 BST (UK)  »
Thank you very much for your help!!
Altaira

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Glamorganshire / More Lloyd enquiries
« on: Tuesday 27 July 04 03:50 BST (UK)  »
According to the 1871 Census there was a Richard Lloyd , age 27, b. Bredon, working as a Railway Signalman, living at #2 Whitcombe St., Aberdare along with his wife, Leah, and children Rose Ann, Richard, and Edith.

I believe Richard to still be in residence at that location in 1891.

According to the 1881 Census there was a Daniel Lloyd , age 41, b. Bredon, working as a Railroad Engine Driver, living at #10 Whitcombe St., Aberdare , along with his wife Emma (possibly maiden name Evans), and children Richard, Maria, George, David, Rose Ann and Daniel.

I would like to find out the following:

Is this Daniel Lloyd listed in the 1841 Census, 1951 Census, 1861 Census or 1871 Census?

Is this Richard Lloyd listed in the 1851 Census, 1861 Census, or 1891 Census?

I am trying to determine if Daniel and Richard are related, perhaps brothers or cousins. There are many similarities between the two men:
Have the same last name
Residing on the same street
Both employed by the railroad
Both have children named Rose and Richard

Mostly I am desperate to make some connections for Daniel to somebody!!

Basically I am trying to find as much information about my GGGrandfather Daniel Lloyd as possible. I have his location in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 Census, but want to work backward to learn more about his parents, siblings.

Also there is  a widow in the Welsh 1891 Census
Lloyd, Mary 75 Bredon, Worcestershire Head Aberdare Glamorgan.  Perhaps she would be Daniel's Mum. I would love to know about any early Census she appears in with a listing of her husband and children in case she is my GGGGrandmum.

I know this is a lot to ask for, but as always any help would be appreciated. Thank you in advance!
Altaira


    
 



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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1871 Census Request Surrey King
« on: Friday 23 July 04 19:21 BST (UK)  »
Chris,

Me again. On the Census listing of William Harbour's employment does it say he was a labourer in a tanning yard? Difficult to read.

Altaira

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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1871 Census Request Surrey King
« on: Friday 23 July 04 19:12 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Chris!

I agree this 1871 entry looked promising, however I don't believe it can be my William and Mary Ann. In 1871 my William would have been 25, Mary Ann 30. They didn't have either a daughter named Jane or a son named William listed with them in 1881. Of course that could just mean that both children died. How sad that would be.

I really need to find their daughter Annie's birth certificate as it would have an address for them in 1872 and that would give me something to go on. Any ideas on preceeding?

In the 1851 Census William would be five years old, Mary Ann 10, and hopefully both still living with their respective parents. I have no idea as yet what their names were. Got to find William and Mary Ann's marriage certificate...that would answer a lot of questions.

Thanks for trying!

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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1871 Census Request Surrey Cooper
« on: Friday 23 July 04 03:38 BST (UK)  »
Tara,

OOPS! I meant to ask if there was a way to go to the previous page of this census and find out what the house was called, or an address for it, etc. for the place of Mary Ann's employment???

Thanks,
Altaira

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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1871 Census Request Surrey Cooper
« on: Friday 23 July 04 03:30 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Tara!

I know Mary Ann was a servant of some kind, supposedly a pastry cook at Hatfield House according to family lore. This says ladies maid, but that doesn't mean it wasn't her.

Do you know if Hatfield House is in Hitchin?

Also the birthplace listed, Fletching...on the 1881 Census Mary Ann's is listed as Lewes, Sussex. Is that near Fletching?

Can see it is time to find my trusty atlas, although it does seem that many district names, etc., in the UK changed in the early 1900's so it gets confusing.

Altaira

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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1871 Census Request Surrey King
« on: Thursday 22 July 04 22:38 BST (UK)  »
Now have more information re: William and Mary Ann. William Frederick "Harbour" Cooper was born in Lewes,Sussex 1846. Mary Ann King was born in Lewes 1841. They had five children, Annie b. 1872, George b. 1874, Rose b. 1876, Alice Amelia b. 1877 and Arthur b. 1879. The children were all born in Bermondsey. The family resided at 51 Willow Walk, Bermondsey from at least 1877 to 1881 when the census was taken. Their last name was listed as Harbour instead of Cooper on the census for some unknown reason. Family history says William liked the name Harbour and added it to Cooper.  Alice's birth certificate and marriage license both list his name as William Frederick Cooper.

Would someone be so kind as to look William up in 1871 as HARBOUR, possibly at the same address? I would appreciate any leads.

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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1871 Census Request Surrey Cooper
« on: Wednesday 21 July 04 18:31 BST (UK)  »
 ;D
Roma you are a miracle worker!!!!! It has been said to me repeatedly by my Mum and my aunts that my GGGrandad was known as "Harbour Cooper" but no one knew why, or exactly how it connected with him. There was no mention of the Harbour name on my GGrandmother's birth or marriage certificate, so we just assumed Harbour was a nickname William used.

But to actually see it in print, on something official is like unearthing a priceless relic! This has to be my family...and now I know Alice Amelia's siblings' names...my Mum always said she remembered an Auntie Rose.

This gives me a great new place to start looking. I can't tell you how pleased and excited I am that you went the extra mile and found this information for me.

Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!!!!!

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Completed Census Requests / Re: 1871 Census Request Surrey Cooper
« on: Tuesday 20 July 04 20:05 BST (UK)  »
I'm afraid I can't be of much help. We know Mary Ann and Frederick/William were married in 1877 when they had my GGrandmother Alice Amelia.

I was told Alice was the youngest of the family. I was also told Mary Ann died when Alice was quite young so she was raised by an older sister(s).

If Alice was indeed the youngest child of several, I am guessing that Mary Ann would have been between 25 and 30 when she had Alice, putting her birthdate at around 1844. But I have no dates or locations and only assumptions.

Thanks for your help in any case.

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