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Merionethshire / Re: Evan Roberts of Corwen
« on: Saturday 21 September 13 10:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi Alwyn,
Just back from a short break in Scarborough where the weather was pretty good for this time of year.

Many thanks for this information and it all helps in trying to solve the road block of Evan's parents and siblings names etc.

I will print off the three obituaries and sit and try to piece together who is who but it doesn't help when they just say "all at ........"
By the way what does "rug" mean as it is mentioned twice in Maria's obituary?

The odd thing about the census 's is the age difference of Margaret being 10 years older in 1871 and so it makes it difficult to believe the later years as there is no consistancy with any of the children being shown living with Robert and Margaret for more than 1 census each.
I will try to find the Roootschat site for Denbighshire and enquire about Robert Roberts.
Many thanks for your help.
Michael

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Merionethshire / Re: Evan Roberts of Corwen
« on: Sunday 15 September 13 08:51 BST (UK)  »
Hello Alwyn,
I wonder if I may be cheeky and ask for a little more help please. You have been so kind in finding the obituary's of Evan Roberts and translating them for me. I see the village of LLangwm, where his parents are listed is close to Corwen and it has a very successful Male Voice Choir.
I have a problem with tracking his parents who were Robert Roberts (Labourer) and I believe Margaret ?? but I do not her surname as there are so many of marriages for Robert to Margarets before Evan's birth. Evan Roberts married Maria Jones on 19th November 1898 in the parish church of Corwen and I believe Maria Roberts died in June Qtr of 1918 (i think 18th June) and I wonder if there is an obituary for her which might list family members. The witnesses to the wedding were Edward Roberts and Winnie Jones and maybe this Edward may be Evan's brother but there is no Edward listed in his obituary?
I have only found Evan with his parents in 1871 and two sisters Anne and Margaret but the obituaries translated mention 1 sister and 2 brothers. His mother Margaret is shown aged 35 as is father Robert but later census show a Robert and Margaret with her being around 10 years younger and never with Anne or Margaret and so it is very tough to track the correct family. Did Robert marry twice to two different Margaret's ?
I would be grateful for any help if you can see an obituary for Maria in 1918
Charlotte believes that Evan married again after Maria's death but nothing is known of this as his daughter went to live away and married too.
I will be most grateful if you can help.
Regards
Michael

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Merionethshire / Re: Evan Roberts of Corwen
« on: Thursday 12 September 13 16:45 BST (UK)  »
Sorry - its Granddaughter Charlotte and not daughter
Michael

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Merionethshire / Re: Evan Roberts of Corwen
« on: Thursday 12 September 13 16:44 BST (UK)  »
Hello Alwyn,
Many thanks - daughter Charlotte mentioned in the tributes is absolutely over the moon.
Absolutely brilliant and thank you so much for both reports.
Kind regards for your assistance.
Michael Tench

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Merionethshire / Re: Evan Roberts of Corwen
« on: Monday 09 September 13 08:53 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone for all your excellent assistance and I am still absorbing the detail and most of it fits well with the family.
One question on the marriage of Robert Roberts to Margaret (possibly Jones) and the wedding in 1860 in Bala - now as my Margaret is listed in the census of 1871 with Evan and others as being born in LLanfor ? then where is that and how far from Bala is it?
I also had a look at the 1861 census but could not find them there at all in Llanycil I think it was so how can I find that via Ancestry?
Many thanks for all your help.
Michael

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Merionethshire / Re: Evan Roberts of Corwen
« on: Sunday 08 September 13 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Morgan, Thanks for reply and I hope I am replying by the correct method.
Evan Roberts married Maria Jones on 19th Nov 1898 in the parish church of Corwen and he is listed as a labourer, as his father Robert Roberts. Maria Jones has no occupation but was a spinster and her father was Edward Jones a labourer too. Evan was aged 29 and Maria was 23 as shown by the certificate.
Evan's address was shown as The Crown Hotel, Corwen and Maria's address as Hill Street, Corwen.
The witnesses were Edward Roberts and Winnie Jones.
I believe that they lived in Hill Strret for most of their life after this date but I believe that Evan was born Cerrig y Druidion and Maria was born in Corwen. Maria died around 1918 we think and rumour has it they Evan married again but not known who or when.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Michael

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Devon / Re: Searching for MOORE of Seaton & Beer Devon.
« on: Sunday 08 September 13 12:52 BST (UK)  »
Hello Mr. Tibbs,
My name is Michael Tench and I am trying to tie the branches of the Tench family in the North East with my branches in Shropshire, Worcestershire and Cheshire. They may have travelled with the Crowley family from this area to the North East.
I wonder if you could give your earliest Tench ancestor names and dates to see if I could tie them in to the overall Tench family
Thanks
Michael Tench

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Durham / Re: Ambrose Crowley-Winlaton ironworks
« on: Sunday 08 September 13 12:49 BST (UK)  »
Hello Mr. Tibbs,
My name is Michael Tench and I am trying to tie the branches of the Tench family in the North East with my branches in Shropshire, Worcestershire and Cheshire. They may have travelled with the Crowley family from this area to the North East.
I wonder if you could give your earliest Tench ancestor names and dates to see if I could tie them in to the overall Tench family
Thanks
Michael Tench

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Merionethshire / Evan Roberts of Corwen
« on: Sunday 08 September 13 12:27 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I am a new member and trying to trace a Roberts family who lived in Corwen.
In particular an Evan Roberts who was born in Cerrig Y Druidion and lived in Hill Street, Corwen until his death in April 1939. I wonder if there would be an obituary for him in the local newspapers?
He served in the Royal Welch Fusiliers in the Boer War.
On his first marriage he gave his fathers name as Robert Roberts in 1898 and itis believed he may have married again after her death in 1918.
I would be grateful for any assistance in tracking him and his family.
Kind regards
Michael Tench

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