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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Tuesday 17 September 13 16:20 BST (UK)  »
Hi again Geordie,
Sorry it's taken a few days to get back to you.  I've had a pretty hectic week and have just now had another chance to get back into my family history and my e-mails.  I read the reply from Judith and did a little bit more digging on Jane and according to the information I have found is that she was actually born on 9 May 1783 and died 11 July 1824 which would have made her 41 years old at the time of her death. Judith was also right about the christening date of Jane and James' youngest child.  This would have been Mary Ann. She was born 29 June 1819 and died 28 April 1841 making her 22 years old at the time of her death so these dates are certainly consistent with the record she has. As for Adam and Alison Landells (Adam being my GGGG Grandfather) they did indeed have the children you mentioned. William, Jeannie, Walter, Thomas, Margaret and Gavin.  I have them all on the records my family have passed on to me just recently and yes on these new records I received Jane is definitely on there so I was pleased as punch to receive those.   
In Regards to William Burn Landells, yes, he was born 9 April 1811 in Alnwick, Northumberland and died 16 February 1871 in Newtown, West Geelong, Victoria so that information is also correct and consistent with what I have as well.   Also, thank you for that little tid bit of information on Adam I was thrilled to learn that.  As for Edward ending up in South Africa, we have no idea why he went there at all.  But you're right they did have itchy feet.  It seemed that they just couldn't keep still.  A trait unfortunately that seemed to pass on to my own family.  I recall as a child my parents couldn't seem to keep still either so I guess that perhaps it's probably in the blood. Anyway thanks again.  It's great to be able to communicate with someone else who knows about the Landells family.  I had spent a good deal of time a number of years ago trying to access information on my Grandpa's family only to hit brick walls but happy to say that the drought did eventually end and the information finally started landing in my court and I have to say that I'm finding it truly enlightening.  Take care Marg 

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Monday 09 September 13 07:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi Geordie,
Thank you for your reply.  I really enjoy doing family history and it's great to be able to compare notes so thank you again so much for confirming James' wife as Jane Burns.  I can now rest easy about who my rightful GGG grandmother is.  It had become a subject of a bit of confusion of late so thank you for clearing that up for me. As for the son of James and Sarah,  according to our records there is another Adam James Landells that was born 8 years earlier.  For our family, this had also become a matter of confusion however, in other records of other families on our tree, we have children that have in fact been named after siblings whether dead or alive so I guess it begs the question then whether or not this was the case here but to confirm  I have now just found and printed off the family tree from the website which actually shows two different siblings of James and Sarah's children (which are compatible with what I already have) and they are indeed two separate sons.   
it Shows Adam James Landells as being born on 31 January 1868 and married to Sarah Edith Rankin and it also shows Adam James DOUGLAS Landells being born in 1976 along with his twin brother Edward so from what I can tell the Younger Adam was in fact named after his older brother (weird I know not to mention confusing) but given an extra middle name (Douglas) probably to distinquish between the two of them.  Perhaps they called him by one of his middle names rather than his first name.   Also according to the family tree I have, it says that James Landells and Jane Burn did have a son called William Burn Landells, who was born in Alnwick but died in Geelong.  Their son Adam Landells and Margaret Douglas also named one of their sons William Burn Landells as well.  I hope this has helped you and not confused you and thank you again for the extra information on James Landells second wife Mary Wann I was very grateful to have that information given to me.  I have a cousin who's wife's family runs across the Landells line and she mentioned that she thought that James had married twice but she wasn't sure and now you have confirmed that so thank you again and it was great to hear from you.  Take care Regards Marg (Matene)

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Australia / Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« on: Saturday 07 September 13 10:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Geordie
I noticed you were wondering who's son Edward George Landells is. I can answer that for you,  Edward is my grand Uncle and his Father is James Douglas Landells and his mother is Sarah Singleton.  James brother Edward (also known as Edward Landells Douglas) who went on to New Zealand and married the Maori woman (whom you mentioned) whose name is Korowhiti Terangi Tuataka is my great grandfather.  Their son Joseph Hikawharawhara Douglas is my mother's Dad and was killed in 1926 when my mother was 6 months old.
From what I know from my mother's family Adam James Douglas Landells and Edward George Landells were twins.  I actually have them down on our family records.  They were born on 24 March 1876 in Coburg, Victoria.
The Landells family originally came from Scotland.  James emigrated on to Australia and ended up in Victoria and settled in the Coburg area.  James Douglas Landells Father was Adam Landells who married Margaret Douglas on 9th March 1832 in Scotland although he was actually born in Alnwick, Northumberland in England.  Some of Adam's descendents took the name Douglas instead of Landells after Margaret.
My GGG Grandfather James Landells (or Edward's Grandfather) on our records his wife is Grace Scot but some new records have come to light recently that have thrown some doubt on whether this is correct.  We have since found a record stating that his wife's name was Jane Burn.  We know that one of Adam and Margaret's children was named William Burn Landells which seems to fit with this latest revelation on James' wife.  We are now thinking that perhaps Grace and Jane may be one in the same but need to do more research to be sure.
I hope this small piece of information has been helpful to you and has shed some light on your question about Edwards Parents.




 

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