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Messages - Pete Millington

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Stones families of Fearboy, 1847 - 1901
« on: Monday 02 September 13 20:14 BST (UK)  »
I've just searched for Church of Ireland churches in Offaly but there isn't one at Rosemount, I think the nearest is at Tyrrelspass, about 10 miles up the road. However, I have noted down at some point my mother-in-law saying 'there are Stones buried in the protestant cemetery at Rosemount', so there could be a cemetery without an adjacent church.

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Stones families of Fearboy, 1847 - 1901
« on: Monday 02 September 13 19:11 BST (UK)  »
I seem to recall my mother-in-law also telling me there is Church of Ireland church at Rosemount with some Stones buried there. Which adds weight to the theory that the Stones originated from the protestant tradition with some families converting to Catholicism perhaps in the 18th and 19th centuries. That might purely have been due to mixed marriages, with the wife getting her way and bringing up the children as Catholics, as opposed to any radical allegiances to one or the other. I will check that out though about there being a protestant church at Rosemount.

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Stones families of Fearboy, 1847 - 1901
« on: Monday 02 September 13 18:47 BST (UK)  »
I think the answer to that question is that Tubber (also spelt Tobber) & Rosemount is the name of the Parish, but the parish is served by two churches. The Church of St Thomas the Apostle in Rosemount and the Church of the Holy Family in Tubber. The two churches are a few miles apart, my wife's ancestors at Lurgan would have attended the church at Tubber whereas I'd guess your ancestors attended the St Thomas church at Rosemount. I think the reason it gets confusing is that the records from both churches all ended up at the main parish house, normally the head priest's abode which is close to Tubber. The church at Rosemount was probably served by his Curate which in the 1880s were Rev Joseph Carey (1878-84), Rev. James Duffy (1884-86) and Rev. William Healy (1886-93). This is further complicated by the fact that I think the Parish crosses a border between the counties of Offaly (formerly Kings County) and Westmeath, so Rosemount might sometimes be identified as Westmeath and Tubber as Offaly. Its still confusing to this day as the area is very rural and you can drive along a country lane passing from one county into another and back again in the course of a couple of miles.

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Stones families of Fearboy, 1847 - 1901
« on: Monday 02 September 13 08:31 BST (UK)  »
This is a list (attached) of all relevant references to the Stones family of Fearboy (also spelt Feerboy) from the centre at Tullamore. Most are baptisms at Tubber church of James Stones and Mary McCormack (various spellings of McCormack but it's undoubtedly the same person). James seems the right age to have been the James mentioned in the Griffiths Valuation. I'm under the impression they married late back then. I'm wondering if the Bridget Stones who died as a widow aged 77 in 1876, therefore born 1799, might have been the matriarch of all of these and therefore possibly your direct ancestor.     

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Stones families of Fearboy, 1847 - 1901
« on: Sunday 01 September 13 10:50 BST (UK)  »
I'll have a look through all of this stuff the Irish Midlands Ancestry centre sent me. For starters I can see a death record indexed for 3 year old Joseph Stones on 18/5/1881 at Fearboy, farmer's child who died of bronchitis. Also Thomas Stones of Fearboy died on 14/12/1877, a farmer aged 59 - cause of death was 'decline'. (I've finally found a medical diagnosis for myself there!) Also Bridget Stones from Fearboy died on 18th March 1876, farmer's wife and widow aged 77 also died as a result of 'decline'. Hope these are relevant. 

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Stones families of Fearboy, 1847 - 1901
« on: Sunday 01 September 13 10:31 BST (UK)  »
Its really interesting, I just looked at Fearboy on a map and its no distance from Lurgan, Moate, Tubber, etc. In fact it seems to be right by where my wife's cousin TJ Kelly still has a large farm. TJ's mother was Anne Stone born at Lurgan. His brother Cormac Kelly still farms Lurgan. Re: the English connection, its one of those subjects local people don't talk about much and perhaps we can understand why. Following Irish independence in the 1920s I get the feeling most traces of English colonial heritage were swept quickly under the carpet. But having said this, my impression is that even if the Stone surname was English from the 1650s, the family were hard working people scraping a living on the land, they married Irish families and have been Catholic and 100% Irish for generations. My mother-in-law will make occasional references to the ancestral line going back to a Cromwellian soldier but has no information to substantiate this. I often wonder if there are records of soldiers being granted land. Moate was a Quaker dominated town in the 1700s, so that might also be worth exploring. 

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Offaly (Kings) / Re: Stones families of Fearboy, 1847 - 1901
« on: Sunday 01 September 13 09:43 BST (UK)  »
I've written my research into a PDF document and posted it to Calameo. there is duplication in parts of it and it needs a bit of editing and proof reading, but it gives a comprehensive overview of where I'm at. Paying the family history centre at Tullamore 80 euros helped me get a wealth of old church records from Tubber church: 

http://en.calameo.com/read/000675467c4471b7112df

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Unwanted Birth, Marriage, Death Certs H to M / Re: McDONNELL Martin 1912/1918 Dublin IRELAND
« on: Saturday 31 August 13 23:44 BST (UK)  »
I have blind John McDonnell who died in 1916. Owned properties in Bolton Street, Dublin and ran a basket making factory. 

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Wexford / Re: Wexford birth records pre 1864 ?
« on: Saturday 31 August 13 23:41 BST (UK)  »
On another line of research Tara, I have McDonnells in Dublin (married Whelans of Bolton Street) and Fennellys of Laois (married Lawlors in late 1800s). Kilminchy, Portlaois area. Ballydavis.

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