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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1861-1891 Bridget Norton
« on: Thursday 06 July 17 19:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi

I recently received Bridget and Arthur's birth certificates. It has their mother as
Mary Norton late Conlin formerly McLinn (Macklin on Arthur's)

Does that mean her maiden name is McLinn/Macklin and she is a widow married name Conlin?

Thanks

Stephen

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Murphy-1911 Census
« on: Friday 30 June 17 18:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi

Thanks Blue that's really interesting.

I just realised it states he is single! over looked that in my quest to try eventually find them...


I have also just found two possibilities for Elizabeth Murphy following this line of thought

One is St Saviours, 1 Paul Street listed as a Laundress or the other is as an 'inmate' at an Orphanage, Knolle Park, Much Woolton. I'm more inclined to go with St Saviours i think.

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Murphy-1911 Census
« on: Friday 30 June 17 16:17 BST (UK)  »
the census record states its 107 St Anne Street.

Stephen

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1861-1891 Bridget Norton
« on: Friday 30 June 17 15:29 BST (UK)  »
Thanks so so much. This is amazing and terrifying that i may have found them at the same time!!

But it also throws up so many more questions!!

A quick check seems to verify they have a sister Mary Ann Norton born 1851- i have just found her marriage banns to a Thomas Henry Johnson on 16 Sept 1879 and it states her father as Michael Norton. It doesn't mention him being deceased as it also doesn't on Arthur's catholic marriage cert. though i'm not sure if they would mentioned that back then? They are living at Great Crosshall Street at the time according to this.

Also i just double checked Bridget's baptism record and her Godfather is a gentleman called William Macklin.

It does seem way too much of a coincidence the names and age of the siblings on these census records for it not to be them but why would they be called Rothwell on these census records for so many years but then when Arthur appears on 1891 census as  Head he is back to Norton and Bridget calls herself Norton on her sons birth certificate 1891.

Again, Thank You for all your help

Stephen


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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Murphy-1911 Census
« on: Friday 30 June 17 09:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I have been having a bit of trouble with my Wife's Great Grandmother and her family in 1911 census.

She is Elizabeth Murphy born 26 Jan 1895, baptised at St Augustine, Liverpool.

Her Father is James Murphy born 19 Sept 1862, baptised at Our Lady Of Reconciliation De La Salette, Liverpool.

Her Mother is Alice(Alicia) Murphy(Cassidy) born 21 May 1868, baptised at St Augustine, Liverpool.

She also has following siblings- John 1885, Ann 1887, James 1891, Michael 1896, Bridget 1899.

I have them in all available census, marriage, birth records but then they seem to disappear for the 1911 census.

I have searched for a long time trying to find them then i came across a possible lead in youngest child Bridget Murphy, aged 11. I found someone with a similar age living in Wavertree Cottages, Liverpool as an 'Inmate' in what i am guessing is some sort of workhouse/lodging for children.

Based on this i worked on the assumption that the family had possibly been split up for an unknown reason but still could not find the rest of the family.

I have just recently come across a James Murphy with similar age lodging at St Annes Street, Liverpool which seems to be a doss house/workhouse sort of place. If anyone has any information on this place it would be very welcome! It lists his occupation as Dock Labourer which is what it has on Elizabeth's marriage certificate in 1920.         RG14; Piece: 22161     13 page 647

But i still cannot find anything on where Elizabeth Murphy and her mother Alice are living at this time. Are they separated or together? Or are the whole family together somewhere and the above is just a coincidence?

I hope that makes sense- any help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Stephen

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1861-1891 Bridget Norton
« on: Wednesday 28 June 17 11:18 BST (UK)  »
Sorry, just to add...

On Arthur Nortons Catholic marriage cert.(m Sarah Joyce- July 1881) it lists his parents as  Michaelis Naughton and Mariae Naughton.

Thanks

Stephen

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1861-1891 Bridget Norton
« on: Wednesday 28 June 17 11:02 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

i know this post is old but after a bit of a break i have come back to the illusive Bridget Norton.

Going off her sons (Henry Norton aka Stone) marriage cert. he had a witness named Arthur Norton which i believe is her brother. I am now more than certain that her father was Michael Norton and not Henry etc.

Bridget born abt 1854
Arthur born abt 1856

They both have catholic baptisms at St Marys, Lancashire. The problem is the first names are latinised as they were Catholics. Very confusing.

Parents Michael Norton and Mary (Mclinn) on Bridgets
           Michaelis Norton and Margaritae (Macklin) on Arthurs

But still with this information i cannot find Bridget (and now Arthur) in any of the census records in the subject title and record of her marriage to Samuel Stone (his 3rd marriage.)

Sorry if this is not making sense?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Stephen

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1861-1891 Bridget Norton
« on: Friday 20 November 15 10:57 GMT (UK)  »
Bridget's baptism has her mother's maiden name as Cocklin.
Could this be another child born to Henry and Sarah .........

Sarah Norton born 26 July 1852, bap 1 Aug 1852, St Patrick.
Transcript has Sarah as Coughton but image looks like Coughlin
Godparents Michael and Eliza Nowlan

Hi,

i do remember saving that in my shoe box, problem is i can't find anything from 1861 to confirm anything about Bridget! she just seems to disappear for about 30-40 years!!

Also, does anyone have a theory why there is no record of Bridget's marriage to Samuel Stone? On their child together Catherine Stone baptism record in 1898 it has her as Bridget Stone (olim Norton.) Judging that his previous wife Margaret died about 1893 it must be between those dates but i can not find any record of a marriage between the two?

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / Re: Census 1861-1891 Bridget Norton
« on: Friday 20 November 15 10:47 GMT (UK)  »
Age out...but may be worth taking note of..

1881 census Liverpool RG11/3609   folio 30   page5

Margaret  Naughton  head   unm.   45                    Ireland
Mary        ............... sister unm.   35                     .........
Bridget    ............... niece  unm.   19   bag mkr      Liverpool

Jackie

Hi,

That is interesting- took note of that, thanks.

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