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Hi,

Maria Parr  bap.  20th  Nov. 1808  Crediton, Devon, England.  Mother  Sarah Parr.

She may not have been a baby at her baptism.

There was no date of birth.
                                                 Norma

Thank you very much. I'll check it out. If she wasn't baptised as a baby, could that mean she was born into a different denomination or faith?

I am intrigued by Hilda and her sister, Lily.  I find it slightly annoying, that these people on WDYTYA, seem to have interesting relatives all over the place!  (Whereas I have nothing but ag labs and coachmen!  )

What intrigued was the way that only "one" Hilda Hanbury popped up when they did the search...ie, where was she in other censuses.

So in the 1891 census, she is living with her mother and siblings in her Uncle's house.  Her mother is down as "M" Couldn't find them anywhere else, so googled them.  They were born Hilda and Lily Alcock.  And in 1881, they are living with their parents, with a couple of servants and boarders (one being an actress )  I am now wondering why they ALL changed their names from Alcock to Hanbury.

Also a point of interest, it appears that Lily Hanbury was buried in a Jewish Cemetery.

(Have just discovered this all neatly written out in the Genealogist  ) Oh well, it was nice hunting!

I realise that this thread was made awhile ago, but I did some research after watching this episode. It turns out that Lily and Hilda's mother, Elizabeth Davis, was of Jewish lineage, hence the connection to Willesden Jewish Cemetery and Elizabeth's sister Louisa's marriage to Solomon Nathaniel Jacobson. On her marriage certificate, her father is called "John Albert Davis", who was a "cigar manufacturer". I traced the family to the 1871 Census, where John Albert Davis is married to Julia, who was born in Amsterdam, Holland. The reason why his history was initially difficult to trace is because he changed his name during his lifetime, although his death certificate lists him with his original name "Joseph Angel Davis". The 1861 Census has Julia as the head of the household and under the occupation the recorder has noted that her "husband JOSEPH [is] absent" and that he works in the cigar trade. I did a search on freebmd.org.uk and discovered that Joseph Angel Davis, son of Ralph Davis and Maria (according to the 1841 and 1851 Census), and Julia Keesing were married in 1842 in the City of London, alongside other Jewish couples. Keesing seems to be a Jewish family in Amsterdam; or, at least, that name seems to be prominent in Dutch Jewish genealogy websites. I think Ralph might not be the real name of his father; there seems to be a marriage between Angel (Asher Anshel) Davis, son of Raphael Frieslander, and Maria Davis, daughter of Joseph, in 1814 on SynagogueScribe. The similarity with the names (since Angel is Joseph's middle name) might be a coincidence, but it's not too ridiculous to presume that they could be relatives.

Greetings to you all,

I feel a little bit nervous writing about this sort of topic in the correct way, but I'm going to give it a crack nevertheless.

I couldn't find an appropriate sub-forum for this message, although the description for the common room seems to indicate that practically anything inappropriate to all the others can go in here. I've recently graduated from university and I would like to continue my studies by applying for an M.A. in Classics or History. But, at present, I don't have a sufficient amount of money to apply, and I'm also feeling uncomfortable about taking the risk of applying for a scholarship. So I've decided to try and make a business out of genealogical research: a field of study I've been deeply involved for almost 8 years (since I was 15). I appreciate that, not being a certified genealogist or a chap with praeternatural business acumen, that this is also a risky enterprise; however, I have (possibly) worked as extensively as an amateur can in the field and I've been successful with making discoveries, and thorough research, in my own, my family's and a few of my friends' personal family histories - I am determined to prove myself and I know that I can work hard and judiciously in this field. I do need a little bit of guidance, a bit of assistance with the programming, and maybe a bit of direction to the right clients, which is why I've come here in the hope that somebody can help.

I'm also going to create a video channel dedicated to historical and genealogical subjects; this will share the same name as my website. I hope to complete the website by the end of the month, at the latest, yet I'm itching to start helping other people who are outside my immediate social circle. I'm primarily London-based, and it's easiest for me to travel around England at the moment - when I earn more money, I'll be able to travel abroad and access hard-to-access repositories. If anyone here is tackling a problem or desiring an exhaustive study into their family history then I will be very happy to lend my services to you.

I would like to know, amongst other things, if anyone here has started their own genealogical business. What did you charge for services at the beginning? I've browsed through various genealogical agencies and I appreciate why prospective clients, who might not be aware of the expense involved "for all concerned" in genealogy, might baulk in the face of them. Also, what would you say is good genealogical practice? What would be your ideal report and what would be included within it? I attend a very informative lecture by Eileen O'Duill on these matters but I would like to receive some other opinions for consideration.