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Thanks MollyC for your correction.
Thanks ShaunJ. I see what you mean about lots of "Inmates" in Huggate marriage records. On the half a dozen pages that I looked at about half were "servant" and the other half "inmate". So your suggestion that the archaic meaning is being used here makes sense. I found a website which gave the archaic meaning and then said: By the 1830s, inmate had come to mean "one confined to an institution." It's not hard to imagine that the Huggate curate was still using the archaic meaning in the 1840s. Elizabeth had been working as a servant for the Huggate miller (1841 census) and presumably she had to stop work and return to the family home when she became pregnant.
Just goes to show that you shouldn't jump to conclusions. Thanks again to all.

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Thank you KGarrad. So perhaps she was living at the workhouse at Hungate, Pocklington and had her babies there and then travelled to Huggate (8 miles) for the baptisms, because that was her family home. Or, perhaps she lived at Huggate with her family but was still considered an inmate because she was getting a weekly pension. From the link KGarrad provided: "Very few paupers were ever in the workhouse as it was found that giving paupers weekly pensions was a cheaper option."
I think her parents couldn't afford to support her. In the 1851 census (a few years after Elizabeth's 2 children were born) her father (63) was living at a farm in Warter where he worked as a shepherd, while her mother and youngest sister were still at Huggate.

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Elizabeth Waites (aka Bessy, Betsy) had two illegitimate children, Gibson born 1844 and Mary born 1846 in Huggate, Yorkshire. Their baptism records describe their mother as “Inmate” under Trade or Profession. Elizabeth is also described as “Inmate” on her marriage record. The marriage was on Christmas Day 1846, and her second child was buried 5 days later, aged 16 weeks. (The first child also died, aged 8 weeks.)
I have lots of illegitimate births in my family tree, but this is the first time I have seen the unwed mother recorded as an inmate. The abodes for each of the baptisms, deaths and the marriage are all Huggate. What sort of institution would be in this small village (population in 1823 was 413)? A work house?

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Sligo / Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« on: Friday 11 February 22 23:50 GMT (UK)  »
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Sligo / Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« on: Friday 11 February 22 23:37 GMT (UK)  »
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Sligo / Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« on: Friday 11 February 22 11:54 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Gerry. No I do not have this document and even just this screenshot has info that I have not seen before - I did not know that Patrick William had a son called Patrick. I think I might have confused you with the wording of my last reply. Patrick William (1786-1871, #108) is my 3G Grandfather, his son Thomas (1824-1906, came to Australia in 1845) is my 2G grandfather, his son Thomas John (1855-1943) is my G grandfather, his daughter Claudia Sarah(1891-1932) is my grandmother. Which one of Patrick William's sons are you descended from? Would love to get further info about the Cullens that stayed in Ireland. And very happy to share info that I have with you.

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Sligo / Re: Patrick Cullen of Kilmactranny, convict
« on: Wednesday 09 February 22 10:25 GMT (UK)  »
Yes, my email notifications are still working and here I am  :). Lovely to hear from you Gerry. Patrick was my 3 greats grandfather. Patrick, his son Thomas (1824-1906), his son Thomas John (1855-1943), his daughter Claudia Sarah(1891-1932). Claudia was my grandmother. Are you a relative? I would love to get some information about Patrick's children who didn't move to Australia.

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I have further info on all of Adam and Elizabeth's children that I am happy to share if anyone is interested. In particular the 3 sons, all of whom moved to Australia. I am a direct descendant of James.

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Thanks so much Chris and Trish. Your information, plus Lily M’s contributions from 2016, have convinced me that the Adam Alderson baptised in 1765 at Barnard Castle in Durham is my ancestor. I also think it is very likely that the Sarah Hutchinson who married James Barry in Pittington (thanks Lily!) is Adam’s wife Elizabeth’s sister. This explains Adam and Elizabeth’s daughter having a cousin “Mr Burry of Durham”. (There are 3 different variations of this family name – Barry, Berry, Burry.)
As for Adam not naming any of his children after his parents – it does seem a bit unusual, but he was an articled clerk at the time of his marriage and no doubt he could see a successful future for himself as an attorney. He may have wanted to distance himself from his humble beginnings as the son of a weaver.

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