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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Friday 01 November 13 12:31 GMT (UK)  »
Brian,
I think you're right. I certainly wouldn't want to impose on our hosts, so I will be in touch separately, as you suggest.
Thanks,
Dennis

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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Thursday 31 October 13 16:43 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks, Brian, for getting back to me and giving me the reference to the court case. It sounds as if I have been reading too much into the situation after looking at the earlier Bradley family wills, but I will look forward to seeing the papers anyway. Have you seen the wills too? I can give you the references to them in the National Archives if you haven't.

Your earlier notes on the Bradley family on this website - both to the generation that William David and Charlotte (Martelli) belong to, and to the children of William David and Mary (Halpin) - were really helpful to me as I was putting together the Martelli family history. Thanks for all of that too. Ours was one of those 'trunk in the attic' stories where my wife and I found all kinds of material relating to the family just before her mother Mary (the older of Howard Martelli's two children) died a couple of years ago. As I was trying to solve the puzzle of how Howard was brought up after he was effectively 'orphaned' in the early 1900s I started seeing the links between him and his two orphaned Bradley orphans, Willie and Doris, who were all about the same age. (I thought until I got your reply that you were a descendant of Doris's and wondered whether some of the information about how the three of them were brought up by their aunt Maria might be of direct interest to you too. Let me know if you have gaps there that I might be able to fill.)

There are a few more things that I am trying to piece together that you might be able to help with. I am pretty sure, working from some old school photos, that Willie Bradley and Howard went to boarding school together at Trent College in Nottinghamshire around 1912-13, but that Willie didn't stay there for long. Might have have been some earlier family link with Trent College? Howard went straight from school in 1915 into the Sherwood Foresters and joined World War 1 on the Western Front, just in time for the battle of the Somme... Do you know if Willie returned to Ireland? They seem to have linked up again in Ireland after the war, before Willie moved to England and Howard went to the North.

And Charlotte Bradley/Martelli's life after she left Dublin for London in the early 1900s is a mystery until the 1911 census, where I found her again, living in a boarding house. She and Howard appear to have reestablished contact while he was in school in England. Maybe she also had contact with some of her other Bradley relatives in England over these years?

All the best,
Dennis


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Wicklow / Re: Halpins of Wicklow, etc. - Part 4
« on: Monday 28 October 13 14:36 GMT (UK)  »
As someone new to RootsChat I wonder if I can post a message on your amazingly productive site that only relates marginally to the Halpins? It's to do with the Bradley family of Dublin solicitors, who are connected via the marriage of William David Bradley to Mary Halpin in 1882 and who have cropped up from time to time in your discussions.

I am interested in my wife's ancestors, the Martellis (who have Italian origins and arrived in Ireland in the 1790s). One of them, Joseph Wilson Martelli (c1844-1901) married a sister of William David Bradley, Charlotte Elizabeth (1854-1938). Due to a combination of family misfortunes - the deaths of William David Bradley and Mary Halpin in 1897, the death of Joseph Martelli in 1901 and the disappearance of his wife Charlotte Elizabeth to London soon after that, probably because of alcohol problems - the younger children of both families (Doris and Willie Bradley and Howard Martelli) were brought up together by their grandmother and a maiden aunt, Maria K Bradley, for several years. Willie and Howard went to school together (Monkstown Park in Kingstown/Dun Laoghaire, 1911 census), and then in England (Trent College, for a while at least). The wills of their grandmother Charlotte Bradley (1905) and their aunt Maria Bradley (1913) in the National Archives in Dublin help to throw light on how the three orphans were brought up. Your correspondent 'tompion' mentioned in a posting back in 2010 that he had information about a court case of 1913 brought by the older generation of the Bradleys against Doris and Willie regarding ownership of the Bradley family home Undercliffe in Killiney. I would be very interested to have more information about that dispute and the location of the legal papers. I am also of course happy to pass on any other details I have on the Martelli side that may be of interest to you.
Thanks,
Dennis

   

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Dublin / Re: William Gordon Bradley and co, Dublin solicitors
« on: Sunday 28 July 13 13:04 BST (UK)  »
I am researching the family of Charlotte Elizabeth Martelli and would appreciate having more detail about the set of papers in the National Archives relating to the court case of 1913 involving members of the Bradley family that tompion mentioned on 27.01.10.

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