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Hi again,
I got the certificate you suggested above Morganllan.  It looks like it's the certificate for the couple I'm looking for.  Thomas lives in Robertstown, Aberdare and Mary lives in Mill Street and her father is a James Griffiths.  Thank you. 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Hello
« on: Wednesday 16 October 13 21:22 BST (UK)  »
Hello DTrefran.  Good to see you on here.  In fact, I know DTrefran and I pointed him towards this Forum as an excellent source of help for researching family records.  Enjoy!

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Phoning a registry office for information
« on: Sunday 25 August 13 09:42 BST (UK)  »
Thank you both for your replies.  Yes, they are the ones.  And that daughter of 2 months old disappears in the 1871 Census. 

You mean that she has died between censuses?

There are 18 deaths for Elizabeth Griffiths, between 1861 and 1865, in Merthyr Tydfil district.
In 1866, age at death was introduced.

So another possibility is:
March qtr 1867
Merthyr Tydfil district    vol 11a, page 273
Elizabeth Griffiths    age 6

Thank you.  The Elizabeth which appears in 1871 is only 4 years old so she would have been born in 1867.  The Elizabeth which appears in the 1861 Census as being 2 months would have been around 10 years old in 1871. 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Phoning a registry office for information
« on: Sunday 25 August 13 01:43 BST (UK)  »
They are married on the 1861 census with 2 month old daughter Elizabeth living Aberdare
RG9/   4067 f81 p17  (For anyone who is looking for this  ;D  )

Rosie

Thank you both for your replies.  Yes, they are the ones.  And that daughter of 2 months old disappears in the 1871 Census.  They have another daughter again which they name Elizabeth.  But are they the ones whose marriage is referenced in my previous post.  Anyway, I've sent away for that certificate so we'll see what comes up.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Phoning a registry office for information
« on: Friday 23 August 13 18:07 BST (UK)  »
Perhaps if you gave us the names of the bride & groom, somebody in RC may be able to help? :-\

OK.....here we are:  The names are Thomas Williams b. 1839 and Mary Griffiths b.1840.  He was born in Llandybie, Carmarthenshire and she was born in Llanboidy, Carmarthenshire.  I think they got married in Aberdare which is in the Merthyr Tydfil registry office area.  The record which seems most promising is: Merthyr T 11a 480

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Phoning a registry office for information
« on: Friday 23 August 13 17:39 BST (UK)  »
It's a marriage from 1859 and it will probable have been in a non-conformist chapel.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Phoning a registry office for information
« on: Friday 23 August 13 15:22 BST (UK)  »
I did just telephone and they said that they had a marriage matching what I was searching for but since they have Welsh names which are common I wanted to tie them down to a particular area but I was told I'd have to purchase the certificate to get that information. :-(

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Hello  :)

If you contact the local register office, and specify all the known facts, they should be able to find the correct certificate. Include parent's names, father's occupation, Parish/locality, etc should help narrow down the options.

You are correct that Aberdare was included in Merthyr registration district:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/merthyr%20tydfil.html

Best Wishes
Morgan

I telephoned the Merthyr office and I told them them details of the couple's names and I was told that they did have a record for such a pair getting married.  I asked if they would tell me the address and employment of Thomas Williams and I was told that they couldn't tell me anything and that to find out I would have to purchase the certificate.  Is this unusual?

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Thanks again Morganllan. :-)

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