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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Sunday 14 July 13 09:50 BST (UK)  »
My apologies again, I didn't realise anyone would be researching on my behalf, I just thought it was a forum for sharing information that was already acquired by others. I will end the string. Thank you again for the information that you have found.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Friday 12 July 13 08:53 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: [Ray] on Thursday 11 July 13 21:41 BST (UK)
Hi looberta

Are you working from actual census records/pages or transcribed summaries (familysearch-type)?
You will find more detail by viewing the actual pages eg occupation "telegraphist"

Please tell us where you think that you found the couple in 1911?
I agree with what avm228 found, which is why I hinted at the 1911 detail.

Ray



Thanks Ray, I have found 2 John Spicers both in 1925 and 1931-32 Kellys. Will look into this further.
Quote from: bearkat on Thursday 11 July 13 21:07 BST (UK)
Several Southampton Kelly's Directories are online

http://www.plimsoll.org/Southampton/streetdirectories/

You may find John in these  but they only list the head of the household and no occupations.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Friday 12 July 13 08:28 BST (UK)  »
My apologies for the short responses which have caused confusion, but we seem to have gotten off track, I have everything I need for Charles Boyce and Ellen Byrne. The information I am unable to find is for John Spicer.
But for the record, Charles Sydney Herbert Boyce b1881 Southampton, d1922 Southampton. Telegraphist (Post Office)/ Postal telegraph clerk.
Royal Engineers, Regimental No. 71095, Rank SPR (Sapper).
First Served in France dated 07 Oct 1915.
Probate shows: Postal telegraphist, 1 Cromwell Road, Southampton. Registration district Winchester to Ella Theresa Boyce 24 May Widow 428 pounds.

Married 1911 in Southampton to Ellen Theresa Byrne b1888 Bodmin, d1951 Southampton. No work noted.
Children, Ronald Herbert Boyce, Harold Sydney Boyce, Maurice Charles Boyce, Phillis Boyce.
Also son (Living) to John Spicer, Telegraphist, Southampton.
See attached photo of Ellen and her son to John Spicer.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Thursday 11 July 13 21:56 BST (UK)  »
Hmm, different Charles and Ellen Boyce that had only just married then, very odd. I hadn't heard that they had spent any time in London neither, so must be wrong.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Thursday 11 July 13 20:41 BST (UK)  »
I have not found anything which suggests Ellen was a postal worker, but yes her son Charles Sydney Herbert Boyce was, it is possible that she met John Spicer through this connection. Yes she is noted as Ella T Byrne in the census (Bodmin). It is strange, but the 1911 census has her newly wed to Charles and living in London. Even though she spent most of her married life in Southampton, as a matter of fact in the same house which was owned by my family up until 3 years ago.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Thursday 11 July 13 11:46 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: avm228 on Thursday 11 July 13 11:32 BST (UK)
Quote from: avm228 on Thursday 11 July 13 11:16 BST (UK)
What was her surname at death?

Did she die as Ellen T Boyce aged 63 in Romsey, Mar qtr 1951?

If so it would seem unlikely she had ever been married to John Spicer.
Yes she died as Ellen T Boyce and her son goes by the surname of Boyce, so I don't believe John Spicer stayed around. That is her death record you mention.
I have seen the BT site you mentioned earlier, but there is not access to employee records from there, I think it may be a visit to Winchester or such.
Quote from: avm228 on Thursday 11 July 13 11:32 BST (UK)
Quote from: avm228 on Thursday 11 July 13 11:16 BST (UK)
What was her surname at death?

Did she die as Ellen T Boyce aged 63 in Romsey, Mar qtr 1951?

If so it would seem unlikely she had ever been married to John Spicer.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Thursday 11 July 13 11:13 BST (UK)  »
I have all the information about Ellen Teresa Byrne as she was my Great Grandmother. b1888, d:1951. She was married (1911) to Charles Sydney Herbert Boyce and had 3 sons and 1 daughter with him. She was widowed in 1922.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Thursday 11 July 13 11:01 BST (UK)  »
Yes, that's the correct birth record and yes the son is still living. I have a copy of this birth certificate, but can find no information on the father John Spicer, noted as a telegraphist in Southampton. Does anyone know where I would find out about past employees of British Telecom or such like?

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Hampshire, John SPICER
« on: Wednesday 10 July 13 20:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi I am looking for information on John Spicer. Noted as a telegraphist in Southampton on his son's birth certificate, in 1930. His son's birth was registered on the Isle Of Wight and shows the childs mother was Ellen Spicer, even though no marriage record exists between John and Ellen and family gossip has it that they were not married. I have nothing else on John Spicer and would love to find out anything.

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