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Lanarkshire / Re: Wallace's in East Kilbride, looking for information
« on: Sunday 06 August 23 10:28 BST (UK)  »
Just correcting myself. If James baptised 1776 is attributed to James(B) then he may not have died young.

Also as there is a Janet baptised to James (B) in 1794 there isn't a contradiction in attributing a Janet to James (B), but the Janet baptised 1776 is almost certainly a daughter of James (A).

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Lanarkshire / Re: Wallace's in East Kilbride, looking for information
« on: Sunday 06 August 23 03:31 BST (UK)  »
robertosoy,

There are 3 additional baptisms in Blantyre that help resolve some of these issues.

I've added some extra text in bold.

"The James Wallace Problem.

Thanks for replying to my post, Thomass. I hoped that you would since you appear to have supplementary information. I cannot get to the "send" dialogue of personal messages right now so here goes!

In the time period 1761-1800 I see three marriages in the parish involving James Wallaces

(A)    31/01/73    James Wallace Margaret Thomson
(B)    01/10/75    James Wallace Elizabeth Coats
(C)    25/01/84    James Wallace Jean Ronald


Births to James Wallaces are as follows, my interpretation between the lines

(1)    27/02/74 Hugh Wallace (Jackton) legal birth

        (since legal, presumed son of (A) above)

(2)    28/04/75  Margaret Wallace (Netsnook) natural (i.e. illeg) birth

         (since marriage (B) occurs a few months later, I presume James (B) is father)

(3)    19/05/76 Janet Wallace (Allerish hole) birth,  11/08/76 James Wallace (Easter Common)

 (these births are too close to be of the same family and the locations differ from the marriages. I cannot tell which is which, but I note in the blog that you attribute Janet to James (B)).

(4)   07/06/78  Andrew Wallace (Allerish hole)  ????

(5)   18/01/81 Margaret Wallace (Allerish hole)  ?????

       (but James (B) already had a Margaret. So, does this Margaret belong to James (A) and is Allerish hole now his home?)

(6)   08/05/83  Isobel Wallace (Bogton)  ?????

<---------->      Now we come to the date at which James (C) is married    <--------------->

(7)   20/03/85  Jean Wallace (Mains)   James (C)
(b1) 06/05/1786  Jean Wallace assumed to be James (B) see b2 & b3 below
(8)   20/08/86  Janet Wallace (Mains)  James (C)
(9)   28/09/88     James Wallace (Lairhill)     ???? Must be James(A) as too close to John below. This would also indicate James born 1776 died young.
(b2) 07/03/1789 John Wallace died 1855 East Kilbride death certificate confirms parents James (B)
(10)   30/08/89   James Wallace (Mains)   James (C)
(11)   18/09/91   Bazil Wallace (Mains) died 1857 with mother's maiden name Ronald so James(C)
(12)   20/04/94    Robert   ?????? can't be James (B) as too close to Janet below. However they did have a son Robert born about 1792 died 1874 East Kilbride
(b3) 07/12/1794  Janet Wallace  Scotland people list both parents so James (B)
(13)   1800         William (Mains)  James (C)     

Some of the place names are variously spelled e.g. Allerish hole as Arrich hole, etc.

It seems to me that James (A) was born in 1751 (Cambuslang) and that James (B) was born in 1755 in Glassford. The second may be your ancestor.

Anything you can clarify in the above would be appreciated since my only source is ScotlandsPeople and you perhaps have supplementary material."

In addition, the birth of James in 1788 should confirm that James (A), James (B) and James (C) are 3 different people.

I believe there are other children missing from the parish register indices or the registers.

The James born in 1788 is almost certainly my ancestor. He married Mary Riddell in 1807 in East Kilbride.

On Ancestry I have DNA matches to both James (A) and James (B) although I haven't checked the trees to see if the trees are correct.

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Fife / Re: North East Fife memorial inscriptions pre 1855
« on: Wednesday 23 July 14 10:45 BST (UK)  »


I was wondering whether there is a inscription for a John Dickson who died in 1817 at Ferry Port on Craig, but buried at Forgan 11 May 1817. His wife Elizabeth Wemyss died 1783 at Ferry Port on Craig. They were married in 1775 so he's likely to have been in his 60's.

Michael


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Lanarkshire / Re: St Brides churchyard Douglas
« on: Sunday 30 June 13 20:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Patterson's book was published in 1866 (and so the tombstone was probably there prior to 1866). So the tombstone may no longer be there or legible.





 

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Lanarkshire / Re: St Brides churchyard Douglas
« on: Friday 28 June 13 22:13 BST (UK)  »
sancti,

Is the following inscription the one mentioned in the "History of the Count of Ayr" by Patterson?

WOOD BROWN INGLIS SOMERVILLE

He references a inscription in Douglas Churchyard in 1764?? of a James Somerville married to a daughter of Inglis of Ingliston.

I suspect the date, if the same inscription, should be either 1674 or 1664 as his great grandson, as noted by Patterson, got married in 1761!

Thanks

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