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Hi all. This is more a message for posterity. In case I never get around to researching it and sometime somebody finds this message and wants to.
I think my particular Miller surname ancestors from Garston, could be direct descendants from "Roger de Miller" who was transferred from somewhere called Barwe to run the mill in Garston by Adam de Garston" sometime in about the 12th century or maybe 13th.
I can't search on my phone to ensure I'm getting things exactly right while writing this message, but everything I mention is able to be checked and corrected for accuracy via online searches of garston historic documents.
At the moment it's a fairly far reach, but I think it deserves decently checking the records to see if a genealogical paper trail can be established that confirms or perhaps disproves it.
I will attempt to add another comment at some point with what absolutely facts and individuals I've identified over the decades. But for now I just want to leave some points I've discovered for anyone interested in this. It's interesting to me as a descendant but I also think it is interesting for garston history. They were never well to do that I know of or believe, and for a long time before industrialisation they were fishermen, I imagine unable to be much beyond subsistence (I'm sure they fished to sell but I'm guessing they just sold to locals).
The oldest one of my line that I have solid records through his life is Edward Miller born c1758 (varies, and may have his actual birth somewhere, if so I will write a message). It must seem the jump from 1758 back to circa 1200 is ridiculous and it may turn out to be, but I have some arguments as to why it's worth thoroughly checking.
1) There's a fair few records of millers of garston (including edwards) spotting throughout the preceding centuries. I just haven't had the capacity to collate and research it, I've not been well this past few years.
2) the family were fishermen and lived their home was in a place known as the "shore houses". I'm not sure where they were or what records exist. Except I'm fairly sure they were by the shore

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3) I don't know much about the licensing to fish the mersey in garston over the years. But I do believe I was told there were very limited licenses. I also believe there might be some evidence that Roger de Miller was given a license or permission (I could be wrong) to fish the pond associated with the mill, and possibly the river, at some point maybe in Adam de garstons will or on someone leaving.
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