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The Common Room / Dundee Crematoriums pre-1936
« on: Wednesday 03 April 19 13:20 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone have any knowledge of any Dundee crematorium(s) in use before the current one in McAlpine Road was built in 1936? What would have become of any memorials/ashes from old crematoriums after they ceased operations? Any information surrounding this topic would be gratefully received. I am particularly interested in locating any records of persons cremated at closed down crematoriums.

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The Common Room / Lizzie McGillivray
« on: Tuesday 10 July 18 08:55 BST (UK)  »
I've been trying to find out what happened to an ancestor who is very important to me. I have used several genealogy sites, all with no joy. The only information I've found for this lady come from the Scottish records.
I already have her birth certificate and census records from 1891, 1901 and 1911. I also have a school registration record. I also have a record for a person of the same name (from a ship) emigrating to New Zealand, but the age on this doesn't quite tie up to hers.
I would dearly love to know what happened to her. Did she marry and have children, when and where did she die?
Her details are as follows: Lizzie McGillivray (not Elizabeth). Born 8th September 1886 at  88 South Street, Perth, Scotland. Parents were Maggie McIntosh Lowson (born McQueen, previous married name McGillivray). Born 28th December 1861. Died 16th December 1925. Her father was Lewis McGillivray. Born 12th July 1856, Died 1889.
I also have the correct details for both grandparents and great grandparents. After her fathers death, her mother remarried and it appears that Lizzie went on to live with her mum and step-dad. Her mum had another child (who is my great-grandmother). I have a census record from 1911 confirming this.
I have tried everything I can over the past few years to get more information on Lizzie. Its turned in to a real labour of love but I've reached to limit of my ability to trace her. If anyone can help me with information I would be most grateful. Because of the strong information I've gathered from the Scottish system, I strongly suspect that Lizzie probably moved from Scotland at some point. I welcome any tips on how to expand my search.
I'm not too sure if I've posted this request in the right area of this site so hope that the admin moves it to the correct area if Indeed I have. 
Thank you to all who read this post.

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The Lighter Side / Re: Ever had anyone turn up on the doorstep?!
« on: Friday 14 June 13 23:10 BST (UK)  »
I would always be pretty wary of turning up on a strangers door step looking for information about a family tree. Especially in this day and age. I think the correct method of first contact should be a letter.
A couple of years ago in my town, a sheltered housing complex was targeted by a local scumbag druggie. She knocked on the doors of vulnerable old people saying that she was researching a family tree. Upon being hoodwinked and inviting this piece of filth inside, the handbag was robbed. It was in the local paper.
The worse thing was that this filth got simply fined and a few weeks later, she carried out exactly the same scam at another sheltered housing scheme. This time she was jailed for a year, out in six months and no doubt plotting the latest line in vileness to feed this filthy habit.
I did myself once knock on the door of an elderly former neighbour of a late relative. This lovely old lady did ask me in and although I am a genuine guy, I felt terrible for some reason. I was concerned that this lady could have been inviting in any sort! I just asked her a quick question, made my excuses and wrote to her a week later. We later met up in town a chatted for ages.

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The Lighter Side / Wedding photos
« on: Friday 14 June 13 22:46 BST (UK)  »
Has anyone got an opinion on roughly when wedding photographs (as published in newspapers) became commonplace among the general population (not the rich or well-to-do)?
When did getting your wedding pictures done become pretty much affordable to the average working class couple?
Also, did this actually start by becoming a fad, or some kind of fashion trend?

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Albert & Ernest Powrie - War Heroes
« on: Friday 14 June 13 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Thanks everyone for your contributions. I was perhaps getting a bit overwhelmed with the amount of research I am undertaking, so have decided in the meantime to dedicate my time to finding out more about these men. Now it doesn't seem so complex. I am taking the advice on the posts and hopefully will build a broader picture of their movements.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Albert & Ernest Powrie - War Heroes
« on: Thursday 13 June 13 19:43 BST (UK)  »
Yes I see what you mean now. I'm not sure that I need to know such in depth detail as movements as I know the rough details from the obituary ie evacuated from Dunkirk, posted to West Africa then India etc. I'm trying not to over reach myself I think and just compose a summary of what roughly happened. More importantly I would love to have the medals (or copies), the berets and to know exactly what happened in regards to their deaths (probably impossible I know). Its just a shame that there's very few veterans about now.
I will however try what you suggest. The Colonal at the REME is very interested in the story and has promised to carry out a full background search for a small donation. He suggests though that I do exhaust all avenues of inquiry first. Thanks for the advice  :)

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Albert & Ernest Powrie - War Heroes
« on: Thursday 13 June 13 18:17 BST (UK)  »
Albert was the brother of my maternal great grandfather, Ernest his son, so I guess I'm a direct descendant I already know the units/battalions however and know exactly where they died and are buried. I've already mailed a former Colonel of the REME (museum curator) and he provided papers to apply to the MOD for service records. I'm not sure what a war diary is and who would compile it?
I've already looked at perhaps applying for the service medals of both parties, but boy is it complicated! As you've indicated, I have to prove that I'm the nearest "direct descendant", but that is virtually impossible as I've no idea if there is anyone alive who is more senior to me, or more closely linked to them both (Albert had one more son, Ernest did not have children).
I'm not giving up however and one way or the other I'm going to compile a tribute to these equally tragic and inspiring events. With a bit more knowledge and research I am pretty sure I'll come across something which will open up other areas on their lives.

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Albert & Ernest Powrie - War Heroes
« on: Wednesday 12 June 13 23:36 BST (UK)  »
I recently came accross the story of two of my ancestors from the second world war. This father and son were killled 4 days apart on different continents. Their names were Private Ernest Peter Powrie (18 years) of the Black Watch and Staff Seargent Albert Powrie (48 years) of the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers. Here is the link to the obituary, it involves a bit of scrolling;
http://www.scotsatwar.org.uk/rohprints/p.htm
Anyway, with such a striking story I wonder if anyone could help me in gathering more information. Morbid as it may sound, I want to know how they both died. I already know where. I've searched for death certificates but the only ones available do not list cause of death as they were both killed abroad. Does anyone know another way of finding this out? I've already tried Scotlands People and the obituaries.
If anyone wants to share any more information on these men or is connected to it in any way, please PM me

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Annie Powrie
« on: Sunday 09 June 13 11:12 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Thanks for taking the time to tell me that. Sorry I haven't replied sooner but the wife and I have been away for the weekend and I didn't get a good mobile data signal from there. It would be very special to me if I can find the photo of William. I never knew about looking through obituary's. I'll take it you found this one at Dundee library. I am going to head down there next week to take a look for myself. I have mostly done my research on line and have only previously looked there once for a wedding photo (I didn't get one). One last thing though. How are these obituaries published. Are they in the newspapers or contained in other documents? I will of course be using the staff for help as well.
Thanks again though and if you ever feel like being "nosey"again, keep in touch please.

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