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Hi Guys! I hope you are all well!

Sorry I've been a bit quiet - I've had my own addition come along to the family tree and he's been keeping me well and truly busy.

On the Clements bit of this thread I may now have an idea how this joins up to the older Carrickfergus branch.

I have an indenture from PRONI showing Andrew Clements of Carrickfergus (Husband of Helen(a) Dalway), Hercules Clements (his son) and John Clements of Glenow (I cant trace this location if anyone has any local knowledge?) I'm kicking myself as the copy of this indenture from the Adair papers has the lefthand edge slightly cut off and I cant see what county Glenow is in.

Hercules Clements d1758 I have a will for - It states he was formerly of Clements Mount (The Clements holding at Glenavy) but now of Carrickfergus. There are three daughters in his will and no Sons, so I don't think though he lived at Glenavy that he was the originator of the line.

I think from my limited understanding of indentures (not my strong point)  the land then passed or was shared with a John Clements.

At the top of my tree tracing the Glenavy Clements is John Clements who dies 1712. This would put him in line age wise (Its a tough one as I have limited dates to go on) with the other children of Andrew Clements.  (LIEUT Hercules Clement d1758, LIEUT Dalway Clements d.1721)

Its not rock solid, but looking like a good fit. It would also explain very neatly the Dolway name being used by the Glenavy Clements and Later the Glenavy Bells.

The earlier Christopher Clements d1668 in the area remains a complete mystery to me.

Hope this is of some help.

Donna

I wonder if I could get an opinion on this line as it might be important to my own tree.

Many thanks,

Donna

the ? estate (its coming easier now and the husband has a better knack for reading the script it seems)

Thank you once again, your transcription is certainly making a lot more sense than my own.

Im a little bit further along and it looks like it might be a land dispute of some sort.

This was from a box of family papers, so it may be that the correspondence is one sided in that it will only be replies going one way. The original documents were closed so I was working on Microfiche which I can imagine would be hard to miss things on, the white writing on black background is hard on the eyes after a few hours!! With limited time I was scanning through some hundreds of documents and getting copies of things where I saw family names appearing. It will likely still be useful as I can see further down that it mentions family relationships and I was currently trying to ascertain information about the family as there are a muddle of secondary sources commonly referred to that look as if they were written in the 1800s with some inaccurate information.

I'll keep working down the document (its good to practice so I can gain better skills in this area) and pop it up as it may well be useful for someone else. Any verification is fantastic. Thank you so much for your help and putting some context to what Im looking at.

The first document has 1725 at the bottom.

Donna