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The Common Room / Juvenile Offenders in Parkhurst Prison 1838-1864
« on: Thursday 25 July 24 21:33 BST (UK)  »
Good Evening,

I have posted the following as a new thread on Useful Links.   Hopefully this is a correct procedure but please do let me know if not.

Thank you

BAC3
             
                      Juvenile Offenders in Parkhurst Prison 1838-1864

                      Do you believe in the possibility that an ancestor(s) may have been
                      a juvenile offender imprisoned in Parkhurst Prison at any time over
                      the period 1838-1864?   If so, I may be able to help creating a full
                      picture of all the relevant aspects, especially if transportation may
                      have been involved.   There will be no charges/fees involved, other
                      than those you may wish to make independently seeking copy Birth
                      Certificates and similar primary sources.   Initially, please send me
                      a PM with just minimum ancestor details:

                               (i):   Full name, variations and aliases (names of parents helpful);
                               (ii):  Date of birth or year of birth:and
                               (iii): Place of birth.
                       
                      I look forward to helping in any way I can.

                      BAC3

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Useful Links / Juvenile Offenders in Parkhurst Prison 1838-1864
« on: Thursday 25 July 24 21:24 BST (UK)  »
                     Juvenile Offenders in Parkhurst Prison 1838-1864

                      Do you believe in the possibility that an ancestor(s) may have been
                      a juvenile offender imprisoned in Parkhurst Prison at any time over
                      the period 1838-1864?   If so, I may be able to help creating a full
                      picture of all the relevant aspects, especially if transportation may
                      have been involved.   There will be no charges/fees involved, other
                      than those you may wish to make independently seeking copy Birth
                      Certificates and similar primary sources.   Initially, please send me
                      a PM with just minimum ancestor details:

                               (i):   Full name, variations and aliases (names of parents helpful);
                               (ii):  Date of birth or year of birth:and
                               (iii): Place of birth.
                       
                      I look forward to helping in any way I can.

                      BAC3

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Leicestershire / Re: Joseph Ernest Jones CLAY:
« on: Saturday 20 July 24 21:29 BST (UK)  »
willsy,

I forgot to mention that on the night of the 1881 Census Joseph Ernest CLAY was visiting his sister Isabella.........RG11/3154/49, p.36.

BAC3

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Leicestershire / Re: Joseph Ernest Jones CLAY:
« on: Saturday 20 July 24 21:26 BST (UK)  »

Good Evening willsy,

Thank you for the two marriages information.   I am very grateful.   It looks as though Joseph Ernest CLAY may have died before 1885 and more solid research is needed now.

I notice your interest in the Clay family and wonder if you would like a copy of the narrative that I will write for Joseph, hopefully in the next week.

BAC3

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Leicestershire / Re: Joseph Ernest Jones CLAY:
« on: Saturday 20 July 24 16:18 BST (UK)  »

My interest in RootsChat began with "Parkhurst Boys" transported to Australia/NZ and the complimentary research that resulted, that is, my producing details from the UK to be dovetailed in return with details from "down under".   This system produced nearly 2,000 short biographies free-of-charge for descendants to use as they wish.   This type of reciprocity has since been applied successfully to the UK, although only in cases where my research is exhausted and RootsChatters prove a reliable backstop.

My work is maintained exclusively on a private basis to keep the research managable, no public databases, for instance, although a general topic enquiry could be placed on RootsChat I assume.

The biographies etc., with prior agreement, are to be made available eventually to The National Archives.

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Leicestershire / Joseph Ernest Jones CLAY:
« on: Saturday 20 July 24 15:05 BST (UK)  »

Joseph Ernest Jones CLAY was born on 23/02/1842 in Pas-de-Calais, France, but spent most of his life in Leicestershire, some in Belgrave Parish, where he worked as a Chimney Sweep.   He was the son of Thomas CLAY and his wife Louisa (nee JONES).

I have managed to document fully his fairly extensive convict career through to the 1870''s.  However, sadly, I have been unable to uncover any details after the 1881 Census, including his marriage prior to that date, any children and his eventual death.

I wonder if someone can help please.

Thank you

BAC3

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Alfred BUTTERS: Born 1834, North Yorkshire (?)
« on: Wednesday 10 July 24 09:03 BST (UK)  »
Good Morning osprey,

Thank you for all  that detail/information.     You're very kind.   It certainly helps.

For now

BAC3

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: Alfred BUTTERS: Born 1834, North Yorkshire (?)
« on: Tuesday 09 July 24 14:34 BST (UK)  »
On the 30/12/1847 he registered as an apprentice in the Merchant Navy for a term of 8 years with a Thomas Halfyard of Ramsgate aboard the Mary Ann.   

Sadly, I have no specific details of the crimes spoken about next and the FindMyPast Newspaper site was not helpful.   He was first tried at Kingston on Hull 07/04/1849 and sentenced to imprisonment for a month.   His second trial 29/12/1949 afterwards saw him "visiting" York Castle, Millbank and Parkhurst and finally Portsmouth Prison where he died on 26/09/1855.  There was also a summary offence about which I have no details.

He advised the authorities that he did not know where his parents were nor did he name them, only his brother John at Carr Street in Hull.   Neither do his records specify where he was born

BAC3

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Australia / Re: Victoria: Matthew (James) HUNTER, born 1832/33, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
« on: Tuesday 09 July 24 13:55 BST (UK)  »
Hello Suzanne,

I hope this message reaches you.

Did I ever reply to your post of 17/05/2023 about Matthew (James) HUNTER?  The possibility is that your post was never directed to me!!

For the moment,

Tony Cocks

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