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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Tuesday 28 May 13 13:57 BST (UK)  »
Well Hooray for the Mumbai YMCA and their General secretary Mr Ebeneezer Simeon who today sent this photo of W. Chubb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If only we can prove that the Indian Army list birth date is wrong and that this Byculla Captain is my 36th Jacob's horse one. Finger's Crossed.

The power of the internet!!!!

I also think I've found a photo of Eustace Lockhart Maxwell on the FIBIS site!!! What amazing luck. Needs final confirmation that it's him, but looking very likely.

Right, back to revision

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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Saturday 25 May 13 18:18 BST (UK)  »
Well, sly old Doris ha ha!

Yup, haven't got time for this (! :)) but this is what I have in an email about the Bootle one. Don't know where the date of birth came from (sorry!!)

Birth registered Jan-Mar 1883 West Derby, Lancs Vol 8b p.501 (Birth certificate available from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp )
Born 24th March 1882 Bootle, Liverpool? a year earlier??


he was eight years old when  living at 44 Brasenose Rd, Bootle in 1891 Census with
father Dormill born Germany in 1846
mother Carstine born Germany in 1846
and sister Caldrice born 1872

he was a general carter at Gartin(?) Dock living in 1901 Census with
father Daniel born Dorchester - a dock labourer
mother Caroline born Guernsey

Married Maria Thoms in Liverpool 26th Sept 1904

On 6th June 1912 he and his family arrive in Sydney on the TSS Themistocles from London
William - a carter
Maria
Mary aged 6
Emily aged 5
Gladys aged 1
Daniel aged 3

In 1930 he is a coal lumper living at 117 Kent Street, Darling Harbour, Australia with
Emily a stenographer and
Maria (home duties)
This is the only appearance of them in the Electoral Rolls from 1911 onwards as published on Ancestry.co.uk so far

************************************************

Well Sue, if you have time in the next week or so to look at William's siblings then it would be fantastic if you would. (I used probate records a lot to find out about the spinsters.) (NB George E, Alwyn H and Gertrude E are not the same family despite also being Chubbs from Islington.)



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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Saturday 25 May 13 16:09 BST (UK)  »
Well, I've just received Islington's birth certificate. Date of birth 24th March 1882 (to William T Chubb and Mary Anne formerly Tingle, of 66 Westbourne Road, Islington.)

Shame it's not the same birthday as the one in the April 1934 Indian Army List.

What is funny is that that is exactly the same birth date for the one born in Bootle who also ended up in Australia! As a carter in Sydney. I followed his trail for months and reached his grand-daughters who kindly looked through all the old photos but knew he'd never ever said anything about being i the army and were hence quite incredulous.

It's a big step to say the IAL has the wrong birthdate (mind you it was strange he travelled as a man 4 years younger too. Maybee he had shell shock and didn't remember much at all!!)

Perhaps that is as far as we can go. If so, thank you both for all your help. So kind of you

Jon

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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Friday 24 May 13 23:33 BST (UK)  »
Died 19th April 1950 at 65 Willesdon Road, Oakleigh, County of Bourke (his home address)
Army Officer aged 68

cerebral thrombosis -4 days
myocarditis - 2 years

Authorised Agent T.Renton,Undertaker, Station Street, Oakleigh
Buried 21st April 1950 Spring Vale Cemetry

2 years in Victoria

Obituary with picture? Unlikely!!!

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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Friday 24 May 13 23:21 BST (UK)  »
Well here's the death certificate for the army officer from Bombay born in Islington.

Unfortunately no children.

Photo looking unlikely unless there would be passport photos anywhere.

Let's see if the 36th Jacob's Horse guy's birthday of 7th Feb 1882 is the Islington one's.

Anyway you guys have been AMAZING help. Thanks SOOOOO MUCH !!!

Will keep you posted

Jon

Can't see how to attach !!!! Anyway he's the army officer from Bombay, son of William Thomas the compositor

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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Friday 24 May 13 22:59 BST (UK)  »
Sue you're an absolute star! I couldn't find any mention of him or Doris in Australia.

I notice on the Karachi trip he also gave his age as 50 so it would be nice if he turned out to have been 54 and born in 1882. THEN I reckon we have my man.

Hopefully the Islington birth certificate may have a birthday of 7th Feb 1882.

I found that William and Doris had had a daughter Mignon Beryl born 28th Nov 1926 in Bombay who died 4th Aug 1930 at Sewri. They may also have had Isabel Mary who died 29th May 1934 aged 1. Perhaps it was time to resign the Commission and move on.

It does look like they might not have had any more kids.

Unfortunately, it looks like his sister Elsie died a spinster 14th Jan 1952 in Beckenham, UK and left her all to a spinster Edith mary Chubb who was either the one who died in Hammers-Lane Hill 16th Jan 1955  and left her all to Norah Faith Chubb, spinster
or
the one who died 18th June 1959 in Bromley and left all to Minnie Victoria Chubb, spinster

Descendants looking sparse so far!

Will apply for death certificate

Have emailed YMCA Procter, Mumbai !!!

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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Friday 24 May 13 15:41 BST (UK)  »
   
This entry from the Times of India kindly transcribed by Fibis does show that the manager from Wandsworth married to Doris E on the embarkation list was called Captain. (But technically Chubb was not a Captain till 1929 and on the embarkation list was 50 and not 54. So not in the bag yet.) Fibis has amazing info


Groom Surname     Chubb   
First names     William   
Bride Surname     Woods   
First names     Doris Elizabeth   
   Place     Byculla   
Year     1925   
month     Dec   
day     16   
Register Entry     On the 16th December at Christ Church Byculla by the Rev HJ Lane Smith CMS,Captain William Chubb Secretary Procter Branch YMCA to Doris Elizabeth daughter of Mr and Mrs Ernest E Woods of 36 Alexandra Terrace Byculla   
Edition Year     1925   
Edition Date     19 Dec   

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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Thursday 23 May 13 19:20 BST (UK)  »
I've ordered the Islington birth certificate

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England / Re: William CHUBB, 36th Jacob's Horse, born 17th Feb 1882 but where? India/Military?
« on: Thursday 23 May 13 17:55 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Carole

The date of his first commission is 8th Jan 1915 so I imagine that he didn't join the army till war broke out. Being that he went on the Indian Army Reserve of Officers, I would guess that he was in India at the time.

Sorry for confusing things by saying the Islington one died in 1922, of course you and Sue are both right - that was fathers' death.

My notes are not good when it comes to people I have dismissed. I searched and searched for William several months ago. I'd love your help - but you might be best to not rely on my input at the moment. I shouldn't really be doing this this week since I have finals next week to concentrate on. (Am really hoping that Rootschat will produce a Chubb guru !!!!)

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