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With the help of others, I now have my grandmother's family tree going back to the 1600s.  I haven't connected with any family yet but at least I know who they are (on her maternal side).  My other (paternal) grandmother was also an orphan so I'm now focussed on her story.  I have many 3rd and 4th cousins on the various DNA sites but am struggling to connect the dots as there are so many unknowns.
My own family are not fully aware of Mary Ann Fisher's story so it is very personal to me and I refuse to release it until I feel that the time is right - which it isn't. 
Thanks.

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Hi. Thanks for your message. I have done DNA testing and have Fisher ancestry going back to 1600s. I’m still not sure if her father was a Hall but I suspect he was. The name surfaces on my paternal side too,which throws me off.
I really do not want you to use this story - I may take it public but would like to do that myself, when I’m ready. I hope you understand.
Thank you.
Carol

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Thanks once again Heywood!  Ruskie, I was going to ask whether I could copy the certificate to this site but now I don't think there's a need.  Perhaps Alfred and Harriet are related, but I'm not going in that direction at this point in time ...
Thanks for the comments ...

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Hi all - I have just received the certified copy of an entry of marriage for John Fisher and Jane Barber.  The handwriting is difficult, but it appears as though it reads:
Marriage solemnized at The Parish Church in the Parish of Ilkeston, in the County of Derby
Dec. 24, 1927
John Fisher, age 21, bachelor, Lead-washer(?), 32 Richmond Avenue, father: Alfred? Fisher, Labourer
Jane Barber, age 19, Spinster, 38 Bearn? St., Thomas? Barber, Labourer
Witnesses:  William Winfield and Polly Barber.

If this "John Fisher" was 21 in 1927, then he was born in 1906 - 'my' John Fisher was born in Nov. 1905.  My 'Barber' (a DNA relative) never responded to my message where I relayed these names and asked about a possible connection. 
So ...  back to the drawing board ...

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Hi Ruskie - yes, I am hoping that this John Fisher is 'mine'.  I do have the birth certificate for Harriet's son, John, and this guy could very well be him.  I am curious to see who (if anyone) is listed as his family. 

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Thanks Marg!  I have ordered the marriage certificate of John Fisher and Jane Barber through the GRO. 
Fingers crossed.

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Thanks Ruskie - I had wondered if maybe Mr. Tunincliff was a 'fill in' for any missing or absent witnesses, but what struck me was that I only saw him acting as a witness in marriages of people who are in my tree.  I'll keep an eye out for him as I continue through the microfilm though. 
Marg, would you mind sending me a private message with the names of the Fisher descendants that you found?  :)

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After a very long wait, I have finally received the LDS Microfilm containing records from the Parish in Ilkeston, Derby!  It took so long to arrive that I had forgotten why I had ordered it!  One of the many family entries that I saw was the marriage of John Orme to Sarah Atherley - it took place with consent of parents so no names or locations of family are shown.  They married on 15 May 1814 with witnesses being:  Sam L. Orme and William Tunincliff.
There was also a marriage, on 26 Dec. 1815, of a Nathaniel Orme and Sarah Skeavington (sp?). 
I also saw a marrage of a James Sifson (sp?) and Ann Knighton on 27 Feb. 1816, witnessed by: John Orme and Henry Higgitt.
Another marriage on 27 June 1817 of William Atherley and Sarah Beer, wtinessed by:  John Orme and Henry Sills.
Another on 16 Jan. 1819 of Joseph Knighton and Sarah Strangeway, witnessed by:  Ferdinand Wright and James Webster Spencer.
I reached 1820 and had to call it a day ...  I have access to the Microfilm until early November, so will return to do more reading.
There was also a death of a William Knighton (age 36) of Colmanhay, Ilkeston on 6 May 1814.
I suspect that all of these people are somehow connected in my family tree.
An interesting note:  William Tunincliff also witnessed the marriage of John Briggs and Catherine Dakin of 15 Sept. 1814 - also witnessed by William Smith and John Bostock.  He also witnessed a marriage of a John Fisher and Phoebe Henshaw on 16 May 1818.  His name kept surfacing which I found interesting. 
That's it for now ... 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Searching for Alice Hall, b. 6 Feb. 1899
« on: Saturday 24 August 13 15:11 BST (UK)  »
Ruskie - I'll do a bit of digging before ordering.  I checked my DNA matches and have no relatives with the name "Quigley", but have 50 "Smith" cousins.  I'll follow-up with some of these "Smith's"

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