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Durham / Re: Ambrose Crowley-Winlaton ironworks
« on: Wednesday 05 June 13 11:07 BST (UK)  »
Alan
Thanks very much. My John Spencer (1785-1867) was the son of William Spencer (1761-1790), the grandson of Thomas Spencer (1732-1790) and the great grandson of William Spencer (b. abt. 1701-aft1752). All these Spencers were born in Winlaton Mill and worked for Crowleys as file smiths.

It is possible that Philip Spencer's father was Michael Spencer (1757-1836), and that his father was William Spencer died Winlaton 1784 or William Spencer died WI Mill (??? is WI Mill the same as Winlaton Mill) 1764. I know that John Spencer's great grandfather William  had a son called William  so if Philip's grandfather was the same William, then that would make John and Philip second cousins. What do you think?
Yrs
Christopher

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Durham / Re: Ambrose Crowley-Winlaton ironworks
« on: Tuesday 04 June 13 11:06 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks. This is very helpful. I am pretty sure this is the right Philip Spencer. I now need to find how he is related to John Spencer of Newburn (1785-1867). Philip was the guarantor of various leases of John Spencer's.

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Durham / Re: Ambrose Crowley-Winlaton ironworks
« on: Monday 06 May 13 18:34 BST (UK)  »
thank you very much indeed for both your replies which are  extremely helpful. Jane Spencer is my 2nd great grand aunt, her father being my 3rd great grandfather. I would like to know where Jane and her brothers received their education. Is there any resource covering Northumberland which enables me to find out?
I am also interested in the Spoor family. do you know the names, dates of birth and death of her parents and their occupations.
As I previously explained I am new to this site but will now explore the pm system.
Best wishes
Yrs
Christopher

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Durham / Re: Ambrose Crowley-Winlaton ironworks
« on: Monday 06 May 13 11:27 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for reply. The names certainly fit. Jane Spencer would have been 47 in 1869-quite old for a wedding. Annoyingly I cant find either her or her father in the 1861 census which would have been some sort of a check. On the other hand I think I found them both in the 1871 census which gives her age as 48 and her husband as 50 and described as retired surveyor. It looks as though he may have been a widower. Jane gives her place of birth as Newcastle but my Jane was Newburn. On balance I think the connection is quite likely.

Thanks for your help

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Durham / Re: Ambrose Crowley-Winlaton ironworks
« on: Sunday 05 May 13 10:32 BST (UK)  »
This is my first time on this site but I have an interest in the Spencer family who worked at Winlaton Mill from around 1700 to 1810 until John Spencer (1785-1867) started his own business first in Newcastle and then at Newburn. I have found 4 generations of Spencer all baptised at Winlaton Mill intermarried with Crook, Cruddas, Wilkinson, Bourn,  Gardener, Stapleton, Allporte. I would be interested to know whether anybody knows more about the 17th and 18th Century Spencers and I would be happy to share what I have.

When I was up in the North East recently I was pointed in the direction of the Crowley order book for 1711/12  which is on microfiche in Gateshead Library. It was extremely interesting as the Crowley business seems to have been closely managed by Crowley in London but sadly from my admittedly quick read contained no information about the Spencers.

Has anybody come across a Philip Spencer living in the 19th Century and described as a nail manufacturer of Swalwell? I think he died in the 1860s. Also I am looking for further details  John Spencer's daughter Jane born 1822 who married a Spoor?

Look forward to hearing from you.


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