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Nottinghamshire / Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
« on: Saturday 05 April 14 09:28 BST (UK)  »
Port Macquarie... I know it quite well.  My sister lives at Scott's Head and my parents lived at Clybucca for a few years before my mother died.  Small world.
Lesley2

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
« on: Saturday 05 April 14 08:44 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the tip re Charlotte and George.  I have found them, but not their ship.  Do you know what that was?  I would love confirmation of the death dates.  Charlotte 1862 in Camperdown? George in 1930 in Canterbury?


I'm in Perth.  My grandmother was Ida May Theresa,  the daughter of Charlotte Simmons (daughter of Charles and Mary) and George Dray.  She and her sister Clara came to Western Australia in 1896 when Ida was 15.  She married George Mitchell in Cue in 1905.

I gather you are in Australia too.... East or west?
L.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
« on: Friday 04 April 14 17:22 BST (UK)  »
The record of the NABOB  shows Charles came with his wife and her sister, Ann, not his mother, and his brother Samuel.  The record for Charles says both his parents were still alive - his father died in 1852, his mother in 1863.   Mary's parents were both dead.  Mary gave birth on board on January 18, the baby died 7 days later, and when they arrived in Sydney on February 21  the record shows that Mary was "confined in a dangerous state".  They had a daughter, Sarah Ann, born in England in 1837, she was alive when they arrived in Sydney but there is nothing I can find about her after that.

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Nottinghamshire / Re: Lacemakers of Nottingham
« on: Friday 04 April 14 17:03 BST (UK)  »
Well, how's this for coincidence - I am another direct descendant of Stringer Simmons, in exactly the same line as you as far as Charles - and I'm a Lesley too.  Charles Simmons daughter Charlotte was my great grandmother.  What sort of cousin does that make us?

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Ireland / Re: Frances Mann born 1756 married Christopher Townsend married 1776 died in Cork
« on: Wednesday 22 January 14 15:12 GMT (UK)  »
A successful evening's hunting -

Isaac Mann.  Born Norwich 1710, entered Trinity College Dublin in 1730 under the patronage of Robert Jocelyn (later the Chancellor of Ireland). Died Bath, Somerset 10 December 1788, interred at the Episcopal Chapel of the Bishop's summer palace at Ballinapsig, Cork on 31 December  1788.

 Isaac Mann did indeed adopt his brother's children after his brother died, and he took their mother into his home as well.  He never married.  There were 5 children -
Samuel - erected a monument to his uncle in the Epicopal Chapel at Bishopstown House at Ballinaspig "...  to the memory of his beloved and much honoured uncle...Saml Mann has caused this monument to be placed here." The monument was moved to St Finbarre's Cathedral in Cork in 1845.
Frances - married Christopher Townsend
John - married Mary Smyth (Isaac Mann leased Bishopstown House to Nicholas Smyth in 1785)
Henry - married Jayne Smyth
Susanna Maria (or Marie) - married Rev. Joseph Weld in 1775 in Cork (ref. Brady p.451  "Susanna Maria Mann, niece, ward and adopted daughter of Isaac Mann, Bishop of Cork and Ross"

I have a photo of  the portrait of Isaac Mann that hangs in the Bishop's Palace in Cork - they hold the copyright.

Isn't Mr Google wonderful?

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Ireland / Re: Frances Mann born 1756 married Christopher Townsend married 1776 died in Cork
« on: Wednesday 22 January 14 08:38 GMT (UK)  »
My husband is directly descended from Frances Mann through her granddaughter, Louisa Townsend.  Your reference to an adoption by Isaac Mann is very interesting.  Is this a confirmed fact or an unsubstantiated Ancestry entry -of which there are rather a lot!

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: The D'Assigny family of Jersey
« on: Sunday 05 May 13 05:31 BST (UK)  »
The only reference I have found to Pierre's life before he turned up in London is that he was a former monk.  Has anybody found proof of his father being Daniel?  There seems to be no proof of his parentage or birthplace.

I think I am pretty much finished with Pierre and have moved on to his wife, Elizabeth Marie's family - a very rich seam to follow.  Marius' wife, Elizabeth Effard, has also been a wonderful line to follow, and his brother, Philippe, has been fun - a real live pirate in the family.

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: The D'Assigny family of Jersey
« on: Saturday 04 May 13 14:35 BST (UK)  »
Pierre D'Assigny married Marguerite Courtois on 22 December 1635 at the French Church Threadneedle Street London.  She must have died within the year as he then married Elizabeth Marie, daughter of Nathaniel Marie, Pasteur of the church,  on 3 December 1636.  On 1 February 1637 he was appointed school master in Hackney and on 29 August 1638 he was appointed Rector of St Helier Jersey.  He remained on Jersey until 1643 when he was forced to flee in the wake of taking part in an unsuccessful stand against the the Royalists.  He went Norwich where his wife's uncle Pierre deLaune was Pasteur of the Waloon church. His time in Norwich was contentious.  He returned to Jersey in 1651 when the island was taken by the Parliament and became Pasteur at St Martin.  Elizabeth died in 1653 and in 1654 he married Marguerite Nicolle.  He appears to have returned to Norwich as Marius' academic record of graduation  in 1668 refers to him being the son of the rector at Norwich.

Pierre and Elizabeth Marie had four children - Elizabeth, Philippe, Marius and Jean.  There were three more children with Marguerite - Marguerites 1 and 2 and Pierre. 

Elizabeth Marie was the grand daughter of Guillaume DeLauneM Huguenot refugee, cleric and physician - and that opens up a remarkable family line for anyone who hasn't gone there yet.

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