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More respectable perhaps than them having a different surname. 

If they had been married then Holding would be a legitimate surname for them.

Yes definitely… very intriguing… Regards Jayhen

Amy Yates (who died as a child) is baptised in 1904 Todmordan.  Born 1 March 1901. 

Father William painter
Mother Ellen

If that is the right Yates family there is an Annie Yates baptised same time

Definitely Millipede. I seem to have answered you in the middle of the quote, sorry and thanks for your help

Amy Yates (who died as a child) is baptised in 1904 Todmordan.  Born 1 March 1901. 

Father William painter
Mother Ellen

Thanks Millipede, yes that’s the family. Again a strange occurrence as most children in those days were baptised not long after birth… Also Annie Yates can be found on the 1921 Census (age 17) living with her step sister Elizabeth (Eli & Ellen’s daughter) so they presumably knew each other prior to their mothers death in 1916… thanks once again.. regards Jayhen

If that is the right Yates family there is an Annie Yates baptised same time

Just to muddy the waters, an Elijah Yates is mentioned under Greater Manchester Rates Books in 1906, Whitworth Road, Township of Rochdale.

Thanks for your assistance so far. Anything is possible at this stage!.. I think the age of Eli Yates re the sudden death was the strongest possibility coupled with the witness at the inquest stating nobody knew his past… I think the last online record I’ve seen of Eli is that he was the publican of the ‘Mason’s Arms’ Northgate, Blackburn in 1892.. in 1891 he was the sole beneficiary of his mothers estate which made me wonder if he became unsettled after inheriting her estate?… once again thank you so far.. Regards

Hi everyone,

Looking for help in establishing what happened to Publican Eli Yates of Hoddlesden, a small village in Lancashire who left his family Lancashire after 1891

Eli Yates was born on 8 August 1867 the son of Yates Yates and Millicent who ran the Ranken Arms Public House in the small village of Hoddlesden, Lancashire. At 21 Eli married Ellen Almond on 19 June 1889 after which they had 3 children, Millicent, Elizabeth and Eli. Eli the youngest was born in 1891. On the census of that year Eli and his family were living at 5 pleasant view Hoddlesden and he was employed as an assistant publican probably assisting his widowed mother Millicent to run the Ranken Arms, the village pub.
  After this date I can’t find the family together on the 1901 Census. Their children Elizabeth & Eli are living with their Uncle James Almond & family in Darwen. (Millicent had died) They are also there on the 1911 Census. There is no trace of Eli or his wife Ellen… I searched for deaths of each parent without success. Ellen (born in Entwistle) was found on the 1901 Census living with a ‘House Painter’ William Yates and they have 2 daughters Mary 1yr and Amy 1 month old. They are still together on the 1911 Census now living in Burnley with another child May. Jumping further ahead William is later subject to court proceedings whereby he owes creditors. He is in fact called William Holding  trading as William Yates in his painting business..) what confirms that Ellen is Eli’s wife is that in 1916 their youngest son Eli was killed in 1916 and gave his mothers address in Burnley where Ellen was living with William Holding (under the name Yates)
Ellen, Eli’s wife dies in 1916….
  This is certainly a mystery as to why Eli & Ellen left their children with their Uncle whilst Ellen had further children with William Holding. It is believed that Eli later turned up in Rochdale circa 1895 where nobody knew anything about his past (info from inquest into a sudden death of Eli Yates in 1905)…   I’ve not got full access to all historical documents so would be very grateful for any assistance.