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Armed Forces / Re: Pioneer Royal engineers
« on: Wednesday 04 April 18 22:19 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Max

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Armed Forces / Re: Pioneer Royal engineers
« on: Wednesday 04 April 18 17:58 BST (UK)  »
MaxD
If you don't mind me picking your brains again ;-/ can you let me know if on johns service record 1917 it has a sheet (army form B103) casualty form- active service.

There are dates embarked 6/4/17 and then disembarked 6/4/17 with these dates in the Date of Casualty column. Would this indicate an injury and a casevac, or are/were the records just wrote in a certain manner (a bit jumbled) and the casualty column isn't really that ?
Cheers Mark

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Armed Forces / Re: Pioneer Royal engineers
« on: Wednesday 04 April 18 17:40 BST (UK)  »
Thanks once again
I def got more pages when I looked at service records on my phone, compared to computer ( it is slow ) Now I know there all there on phone, I'll make sure to find them on computer, so I can print them
Much appreciated
Mark

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Armed Forces / Re: Pioneer Royal engineers
« on: Tuesday 03 April 18 22:34 BST (UK)  »
Cheers MaxD
I've just gone back through service papers and noticed 2 different ones. One is 1916 the other 1917 but both for John ( I wondered where you had the above information from)
I also noticed earlier service papers from 1900 and 1901 and am pretty sure this my John as father and census address tallys up with my records.
I'll have to see where these service records lead me, as he is in north staffs regt (maybe militia)bit late at night now:-(

Thanks for all your help
Mark

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Armed Forces / Re: Pioneer Royal engineers
« on: Tuesday 03 April 18 10:37 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that MaxD, reading your post makes me think a mixture of both in iwt RE if he was an excavator.

I've seen else where on Internet that there different types of company in iwt RE including construction companys, so I rightly or wrongly assume that John Bradburn was probably in one of these, as a pioneer working alongside sappers.

Thanks for your help
Mark

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Armed Forces / Re: Pioneer Royal engineers
« on: Monday 02 April 18 23:00 BST (UK)  »
Thinking in a modern army way then,would you have a troop consisting of sappers and pioneers or would there be seperate pioneer squadrons. Thanks

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Armed Forces / Re: Pioneer Royal engineers
« on: Monday 02 April 18 22:44 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks MaxD
I suppose then, hole diggers = pioneer putting concrete in,laying bricks=clever sappers
;-)

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Armed Forces / Pioneer Royal engineers
« on: Monday 02 April 18 22:04 BST (UK)  »
Hello all
I was hoping somebody might be able to help with a question I have.

I try to find any information on military men in my family lines, and have just turned up a great uncle who served in ww1

244040 WR/505654 John Bradburn was in the inland water transport corps Royal Engineers. I have seen his medal index and service records which state that johns rank was PIONEER.

I myself am ex Royal Engineers and I have never come across in my time in service, or history lessons learnt, that pioneer was a rank in stead of SAPPER in RE.

Johns occupation on service records is pottery worker but has been crossed out and replaced with excavator, would this have any affect on Sapper/pioneer rank ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Mark

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London and Middlesex / Re: Any information please lewisham Union district
« on: Monday 17 April 17 23:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks caroleW and mean -genie for taking the time to reply ( really appreciated )

Seems no workhouse, but I'll know for definite, when certificate arrives.I can go too bed now without my mind racing :)

Thanks for your help

Mark

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