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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Thursday 13 August 15 20:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Again and Again. You can tell I am on holiday!!
In the birth record of Francis Garrett in 1776 in Maddington it states that father was Francis and mother was ELizabeth. There is a marriage record for a Francis Garrett and a ELizabeth Moore on the 23rd July 1772 in Shrewton and residence as Maddington.This appears to fit, also a record in 1781 of a Francis Garrett Wheelright of Maddington having an apprentice. All of foregoing cannot be proved they are Francis Luke Garrett,s parents, but believe its the best lead we have, as the dates etc are logical. Also middle names are often omitted. As previously mentioned a researcher did comment  that there was a possible Wiltshire connection. Frankly I ignored this as the family believed it came from Suffolk and was linked to the Garretts of Leiston, another family myth bites the dust!! When I get back home to New Zealand will check out the researchers emails etc, might find more info.Cheers Dave

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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Thursday 13 August 15 11:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi, it's me again. I have looked through various records and found a death record for a Francis Garrett on the 26th February 1843 at Christ Church Southwark it must be our Francis Luke Garrett as same dates. It gives his age as 68, thus birth around 1775. Found a Francis Garrett born on the 8th March 1776 at Maddington, Wiltshire. There are no other records for a Francis or Francis Luke around this time.Its not certain that I have the correct person, but it's a possibility. I am visiting England next week if I get a chance will try and delve further. Cheers Dave

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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Thursday 13 August 15 10:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi, Been a long time. Have joined Ancestry and probably have got more confused about the Francis Luke Garrett ancestors.
Many family trees have a connection through a Francis Garratt or Garrett and a Mary Mason I believe this to be totally wrong as has already been pointed out on this RootsChat.Its impossible to be living in the slums of London whilst a supposed brother John Garratt is The Lord Mayor of London.
So lets put that connection to bed.
The other concern I have is regarding the birth date of Francis Luke Garrett, his marriage to Elizabeth Wells and the subsequent children can be confirmed by the records.
Francis and Elizabeth's first child John Wells was born on the 23.2.1802 which was only six months after they married nothing unusual in that, but Francis would have been only 17 nearly 18 when they married. Would he have been allowed to marry at that age if the birth date of 1783 was correct. I noticed that on one family tree they had a guesstimate of 1775 as a birth date which seems more logical.A researcher did some work for me many years ago and could not identify with certainty the parents of John Wells Garrett.I know this does not help, but prefer to have certainty. Cheers Dave

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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Wednesday 12 November 14 10:04 GMT (UK)  »
Lou, my Wells- Garretts came from Southwark and were poor as well. The Wells connection is very tenuous with regard to the ships doctor. In fact I should not have used the title doctor. In those days ships carried a medical person who was unqualified and frankly was more apt at cutting of arms and legs during action. I have found no connection to our family with this Wells, its probably another family myth.As my Wells-Garretts were hatters and resided in Southwark during the 19th century I think we are probably distantly related.The difficulty I have found in trying to trace Wells-Garrett is that the Wells gets dropped in some records, and at other times is counted as a middle Christian name, and sometimes hyphenated other times not.I hope I have not confused you. Cheers Dave

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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Wednesday 12 November 14 06:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, just noticed that that Lou,s Grandfather who was sadly killed in WW2 was a Royal Navy stoker. My Great Uncle John Wells Garrett a son of Francis Wells-Garrett was a regular Royal Navy stoker. Loved visiting him as a child, loved his story's and better was the half crown he always gave me when we left.He was on Admiral Beattys flagship H.M.S Lion at the Battle of Jutland in WW1 and had his nose broken in Hong Kong, great story's, was fascinated by the beautiful honourable discharge certificate which hung on the front room wall. In those days the front room was today's lounge, but only used for visitors etc, funny. He lived in Dagenham near the Ford factory. Cheers Dave

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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Wednesday 12 November 14 05:45 GMT (UK)  »
Hi, It's great to hear from a Wells- Garrett, I thought the name had died out.My Great Grandfather was Francis Wells-Garrett. His occupation was listed as a journeyman hatter. My mother said he worked with other relatives, and made military hats such as the Guards Regiments bearskin hats. That's interesting about a shop in Walworth, it seems to make sense. From what it's worth another family story was that a Wells was the ships doctor on H.M.S Warrior which was the first ironclad it is now at Portsmouth across from Nelsons H.M.S Victory. Visited Warrior a few years ago and checked this story out, and sure a Wells was the Doctor, unexpectedly got a private trip around the ship when the guides found out we had a possible connection. Checked this Wells out it seems he was born in the West Indies, no idea if there is a connection to our Garretts Cheers Dave

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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Monday 13 October 14 08:41 BST (UK)  »
Do not have any knowledge of a Tutt in our family tree. However I do know that Francis Wells Garret lived in Peckham in 1915, because when his son Frank was killed in January 1915 near Ypres Francis was listed as his next of kin living in Peckham.Sorry cant help any further at present.Cheers Dave

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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Monday 01 April 13 04:45 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
Yes. I am David Cotty.Family history is absolutely fascinating,especially the stories which mainly turn out to be myths,which throw you of course.The Pask Family History site fills in many missing bits,however cannot get beyond Francis Luke Garrett and Elizabeth Wells,have no idea where they came from,with the myths about the connections to the Garretts of Leiston,Suffolk have wasted hours looking for a possible Suffolk connection.Nothing found.However some years ago we found a possible connection to Church Stretton,Shropshire, a long way from Southwark and Suffolk.However recently found on the Mormon site a Francis Garrett born 8.3.1776 in Maddington,WiltshireCantconfirm either record as being our ancestor.My Cotty ancestors have been much easier all dirt poor,got back to 1650.Cheers

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London and Middlesex / Re: RICHARD GARRETT family from Southwark, London
« on: Sunday 31 March 13 10:21 BST (UK)  »
Hi,I have come across yr chats by chance.I am also a descendent of John Wells Garrett a d Caroline Matilda Pask.My grandmother was Pamela Wells Garrett.I have been tracing the Garretts for some time.I got stuck with Francis Garrett did not know his middle name was Luke.Can recommend an excellent site Pask Family History,it has a lot of details on the Garretts.Family history is fascinating especially the old family stories.Our story was that our Garretts were related to the famous Garretts of Leiston which Elizabeth Garrett Anderson.I have found no such connection,another family myth.Be happy to supply any missing info.your ancestorRichard Garrett married to Elizabeth Maher was. Brother of my ancestor John Wells Garrett born 1828.I live in New Zealand.Cheers



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