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Travelling People / Re: Anyone Looking For Cunningham And Swales In Yorks?
« on: Sunday 20 October 13 17:19 BST (UK)  »
Jane,
I've got the Adams in several places too.

Robert "Bedale Bob" Adams (1860 - )
husband of 3rd cousin 3x removed
Hannah Wilson (1872 - )
my 3rd cousin 3x removed

Christine in Chicago

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Travelling People / Re: Anyone Looking For Cunningham And Swales In Yorks?
« on: Sunday 20 October 13 00:03 BST (UK)  »
Hi Sofia...

Your Jacob Winter b.1885 is my 2nd cousin 2x removed, married to Christiana Swales b.1888. My 2nd great grandfather is Andrew Winter b.abt 1824, is brother to Jacob Winter b.abt 1831. Their parents are John Winter & Sarah. My grandfather was Andrew Winter (married to Grace Mary Longbottom) son of William Winter married to Ann Cunningham. We are some big family!  ;)

Nice to meet you!!  :)

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Travelling People / Re: Any Winter people here?
« on: Thursday 23 May 13 18:36 BST (UK)  »
@rootbeer...this is what I have.
Andrew Winter
    Your 2nd great grandfather
    Birth abt 1821 in Spalding, Lincolnshire, England
    Death 24 Mar 1886 in Hunslet, Yorkshire West Riding, United Kingdom
His brother was:
Jacob Winter
    Your 2nd great grand uncle
    Birth Nov 1831 in Spalding, Lincolnshire, England
Does this info in some way compare to yours?
And GREAT about the GEDmatch. Please keep in touch...I can give you my Kit# at GEDmatch. Since last night I've been able to access the "Admixture" feature. But like you have to wait the '4-6 weeks' for full processing. So far, seems DNA bears out the Romany ancestry. Wonderful to meet another Winter....I've lived 64 years out of my 66 in the States, with barely any connection to my Winter family in England. Please feel free to contact me privately.

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Travelling People / Re: Any Winter people here?
« on: Thursday 23 May 13 14:26 BST (UK)  »
Hello! rootbeer!
Always great to meet another Winter. I did the Ancestry DNA test and recently uploaded the raw data to GEDmatch for further analysis. Sure enough...there it was. Of course it's not a big percentage, but does show my DNA goes back to the Central & South Asian region to include 'Sindhi'. I've also recently done the 23andme dna test and am anxiously awaiting the results from that one, which is better than Ancestry's DNA test. I also have a very good percentage of 'Eastern European'.
Can you further elaborate on our 'same line'? Do we share grandparents, cousins?

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Travelling People / Re: Any Winter people here?
« on: Saturday 18 May 13 13:08 BST (UK)  »
Good Morning Carole,

I think I'll leave my post here...as my Winter people are Romany. I also have a couple posts elsewhere on the 'Travelling People' forum about my Cunningham people. Got some good advice there as well.

Christine in Chicago

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Travelling People / Re: Any Winter people here?
« on: Friday 17 May 13 23:10 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Carole.
I had noticed that before, but on the 1891 census then gives his birth place as Warrington, Lancashire. OK! I see the registration district is Warrington, from the BMD. Thank you again!
I have a family tree on Ancestry and it was only a few months ago that I actually found out my grandfather was Romany. This was shared with me from a distant cousin thru emails at Ancestry. Her 3rd great grandfather (Jacob Winter) and my 2nd great grandfather (Andrew Winter...William Winter's father) were brothers. The difference in the generation of relation to grandfathers, is because I'm quite a bit older than she. I had no idea about my ancestry until this cousin shared with me. Evidently was something my mother's family tried to hide. Including my own mom. Saddens my heart when people live their entire lives in shame.
I've done quite a bit of research on my own at Ancestry, but always helps when others, like yourself...can point out what I miss, like the registration district. Please understand, I'm still a bit of a novice at this and doing my research without any family stories told to me or to gain clues from. Plus I've lived 64 yrs in America and only 2 years of my life in England.
Basically hoping to connect with my Winter & Cunningham families. So that my own children and grandchildren will know of their full heritage, rather than just the bits I had previous to this very revealing news I recently received, that of my grandfather being Romany. Sure has answered many a question for me.
Christine in Chicago

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Travelling People / Re: Gypsy Names?
« on: Friday 17 May 13 04:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi All!
My maternal side is largely Winter, Cunningham and Longbottom. I have a 2nd cousin Jacob Winter that married Christiana Swales. My people mostly hailed from the North. My grandfather (Andrew Winter) evidently moving South to the Croydon area where he married my grandmother Grace Mary Longbottom. Andrew's parents were William Winter and Ann Cunningham. On the UK census 1901, their address was in Hitchin, Hertfordshire...in address column includes the word 'caravan'.
I only just found out a few months ago that my grandfather was Romany. Seems this was pretty much something my mom and her siblings didn't know or kept silent about. Mom brought me to America when I was 13 months old (back in 1947)....so I didn't get to know my Brit family. Met them briefly when I lived there for a short while, when I was 18. Though she did talk often of her dad and how he sold stuff. My mom's birth certificate has her dad's occupation as 'Hawker'.
Has been an amazing last few months for me.  :)

Chris in Chicago

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Travelling People / Re: Anyone Looking For Cunningham And Swales In Yorks?
« on: Friday 17 May 13 04:27 BST (UK)  »
These are people in my family tree. Any connection to you? Have been wondering for a while now if my Cunningham people were Romany as well.
Jacob Winter
    My 2nd cousin 2x removed
    Birth ABT 1885 in South Stockton (Thornaby), North Yorkshire, England
    Death Apr 4 1966 in Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
married to
Christiana Swales
    wife of 2nd cousin 2x removed
    Birth Apr 1888 in Hartlepool, Durham, England
    Death Mar 3 1956 in Guisborough, Yorkshire, England
My great grandfather was William Winter
     Birth 16 May 1859 in Leeds, Yorkshire, England
In the UK 1901 census address includes 'caravan'
married to Ann Cunningham
     Birth 05 Feb 1856 in 12 Victoria Street, Derby, Derbyshire, England
Ann's father was James Cunningham

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Travelling People / Re: Any Winter people here?
« on: Friday 17 May 13 00:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi! and thanks for the welcome!
Andrew Winter
     Birth 07 Sept 1879 in Lancaster, Warwickshire, England
    Death 30 Nov 1940 in 40 Mitcham Road Croydon, Surrey, England
Married Grace Mary Longbottom
     Birth 07 Aug 1885 in Aldershot, Hampshire, England
    Death 02 Feb 1967 in Mayday Hospital Croydon
Andrew's parents were
William Winter & Ann Cunningham

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