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Devon Lookup Requests / Re: Cemetery look up Axminster.
« on: Tuesday 25 August 15 08:58 BST (UK)  »
I realise it's a long time since you posted your question, but I only just stumbled across it while searching for something completely different. I haven't seen the graves, but can tell you that the Council's burial records show Francis (grave 726) died 19 June 1953 ages 74; Katherine (690) died 2 Nov 1942 aged 57; William Clive (687) died 12 June 1934 aged 11.

I live in Axminster: if I have a chance to look, is there any other information that you were hoping to get?

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Devon / Re: DNA testing, Knapman family
« on: Thursday 25 June 15 08:42 BST (UK)  »
If you look at the Genuki.org.uk website and navigate from the homepage to England then Devon, you will see within the text of Note 1, just below the thumbnail map of Devon, a link to 'Genealogies'. If you follow that link you will see that I have posted two Knapman documents there which may be of interest to you. The document covering 1650-1850 contains the family from Spreyton / Ashburton, and you can work your way back through several generations of their probable origins.

Hope this helps.

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Gloucestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Burden Family - Lechlade
« on: Wednesday 11 December 13 14:31 GMT (UK)  »
I only just saw your message about Henry Burden of almost 30 months ago. If you are still looking I have quite a bit of info on him and his descendants (I being one of them). The basics are as follows (as best I have been able to discover).

He married Mary Blandy in 1774 and they had 13 children before her relatively early death: Ann (1775-1775); Mary Samler (1775-1840, married but no children); Charles (1776-1856, married twice but no children); William (1777-1777); Henry (1777-1808, married with 2 sons, one of them posthumous); George (1778-1778); George Salmon (1780-1781); Daniel Walter (1782-1847, married twice, with 4 sons and 8 daughters); Elizabeth (1783-1862, married with 2 sons and 4 daughters); Jennet (1784-1828, my ancestor, married with 6 sons and 6 daughters); George (1787-1850, married twice, with 2 sons and 4 daughters); Martha (1788-1833); and Annie (1790-1847, married with 1 daughter). Sarah Ansell was his second wife: they had no children.

If you respond to this I can provide more about him and most of his children.

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Devon / Re: Axminster Cemetery Photo Please!
« on: Thursday 28 March 13 15:32 GMT (UK)  »
I had a look, but was unable to find the plot (no cemetery staff were present to provide guidance or a plot plan). There are relatively few markers, but I found one for Y5 which I took to be row 5 in block K, which had graves of the right vintage, and is indeed bounded by the main path. I counted 8 rows from there, but there were no Perkins graves in that row or anywhere nearby.

If you can get better directions, send me a PM and I'll have another look next time I'm there. Although I don't live anywhere near Axminster, I do go there from time to time (my mother still lives there, and my father and grandparents are buried there).

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Devon / Re: DNA testing, Knapman family
« on: Tuesday 12 March 13 20:43 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your message.

I used to believe that the name Knapman was associated with flint knapping (the making of arrow and spear points, and subsequently the supply of strikers for flintlock firearms and the production of building materials). Knapping was an important activity in places such as Brandon in Suffolk, and some parts of Norfolk and Sussex. However, the 1841 census shows that almost 88% of the 471 Knapmans (or close variants of the name) in Great Britain at that time were living in Devon, while there were no Knapmans in Suffolk or Sussex, and just one family group in Norfolk, who had brought the name from Devon. At that time there were also 112 persons called Knapper in Britain, 91 of them in Staffordshire; 1,051 called Knapp (over half of them in Middlesex, Berkshire, Gloucestershire, Wiltshire and Hampshire); and 564 called Napper (two thirds of them in Sussex, Somerset and Middlesex). If anyone took their name from knapping, these seem to me to be stronger candidates.

If the name does not come from flint knapping, the most likely derivation seems to be the term knap which is widely used in Devon to signify a hill, or the crest of a hill, and which has its origins in the Old English word cnæpp meaning top, and possibly the Old Norse word knappr meaning knob. This conclusion is endorsed by ‘Patronymica Britannica’ , which describes Knapman as meaning “a dweller upon a knap or hill”. However, this begs the question of why the name is not more widely distributed.

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Devon / DNA testing, Knapman family
« on: Saturday 09 March 13 12:17 GMT (UK)  »
I have recently added the Knapman surname to the Devon DNA project, and am posting this message to encourage others who may have been considering DNA testing to do the same. Because of the type of DNA test that I took (looking at the Y chromosome) it’s only male Knapmans who can make the comparison.

All of the research that I have done strongly suggests that virtually all Knapmans have their roots in Devon (the exceptions being from Prussia). I have posted a document tracing all known Knapman families in the middle of the 19th century, showing how they may (or may not) have been related to one another. Anyone who is interested can either google “Wider Knapman Family” or, if that doesn’t work, go to the ‘Genealogies’ part of the Devon section of the genuki.org website from where it can be downloaded as a PDF.

I would particularly encourage any Knapmans whose roots include the following combinations of early 19th century wife’s surname and parish / district to consider participating in the Devon DNA project:
Bidder (Devonport)
Crews (Berry Pomeroy)
Hannaford (Ashburton, then London)
Green (Galmpton)
Jordan (South Tawton)
Pillar (Bridford)
Powlesland (South Tawton)
Sercombe (Dunsford)

However, anyone else would also be really welcome to join in (because the more evidence that is assembled, the stronger the conclusions that can be drawn). If anyone thinks they might be interested, please respond, and I can send more background about the testing process. If anyone has Knapman roots but can’t get trace them back to the 1850s, I’d be pleased to help if I can.

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Devon / Re: KNAPMAN, Frederick & Mary to Australia 1885
« on: Sunday 03 March 13 10:54 GMT (UK)  »
I appreciate that this thread is now a bit old, but I have only just seen it, having very recently joined RootsChat. I recognise a lot of the Knapman names mentioned above, and if anyone seeking a Knapman ancestor cares to look on the Devon genealogies pages of the genuki website, they will find a document there giving all of the Knapman families that I have been able to trace. The easiest way to find it is simply to google "Wider Knapman Family". I have recently taken a Y-DNA test, and would encourage any other male Knapmans out there to consider doing the same, via the familytreedna.com/public/Devon group to check out family lines.

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Dorset Lookup Requests / Re: pearce, and Stote families of the New Forest
« on: Tuesday 26 February 13 09:08 GMT (UK)  »
I received a PM in response to my first post (re Charlotte Pearce), but am not (yet) allowed to reply, because I haven't made enough posts. I cannot see how to add an attachment (PDF file) to this posting, which makes me wonder whether I'll persevere with Rootschat. Can anyone who is interested in the Stote family suggest a practical solution within the rules and practice of Rootschat?

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Dorset Lookup Requests / Re: pearce
« on: Sunday 24 February 13 17:46 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry if this response is too late to be useful, bit I have only just joined Rootschat. I am descended from Walter Stote, the younger brother of Charlotte Pearce (nee Stote), and can provide you with their family's origins back to the early 17th century, and probably back to 1500. It's too complicated to summarise in a post, but I have the information written up, and can Email it if you would like (or can one add attachments to these posts?). I have also attempted to trace all other New Forest Stotes, in the same document.

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