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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: John Cockroft b.1805
« on: Friday 21 June 19 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Scott, it was normal for "members" of a non-conformist church to register the births of their children. So I think you're simply seeing first a record of the birth, and later on, the baptism, which they delayed for a few years for some reason.

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: Help for Latin used in University Matriculation Album
« on: Wednesday 10 April 19 18:57 BST (UK)  »
Great, thanks for the help.

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: Help for Latin used in University Matriculation Album
« on: Wednesday 10 April 19 18:07 BST (UK)  »
I can post a bit more but probably not the whole thing due to copyright concerns.

It's an entry in a manor court roll, for Heptonstall in West Yorkshire, dated 1727. Father transferring copyhold to his sons John and Jonathan, where I understand that Jonathan is the older son and he's providing for the younger son whilst not leaving the heir out completely.

Not convinced the available context will actually help distinguish here, but fingers crossed :)

"... houses with appurtenances now in occupation of the aforesaid John Robertshaw or his assigns to the use of John Robertshaw younger/youngest son of the aforesaid John for the rest of his natural life, and after to the use of William his* son and heirs and assigns..."

* I've taken "his" to mean that William is the son of John junior, rather than John senior. It fits better with the known family tree.

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FH Documents and Artefacts / Re: Help for Latin used in University Matriculation Album
« on: Wednesday 10 April 19 15:51 BST (UK)  »
Sorry for the (completely related) hijack, but would you expect "filii minor[is] natu" to mean "youngest son" or "younger son"?

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Resources & Offers / Re: St Thomas Heptonstall Graves
« on: Sunday 07 January 18 12:44 GMT (UK)  »
Many (but not all) Heptonstall graves are transcribed here: http://www.hebdenbridgehistory.org.uk/gravestones/index.html

I had a quick scan through but didn't see your Crossleys.

If you are able to visit, IMHO you will most likely find them behind the old church - from the age, and because of the relative lack of coverage of the above transcriptions in those areas. Best time to visit is probably between now and May where there is minimal vegetation covering them. It's a big graveyard and you can't access everything, so you may spend a few hours and not find anything!

You could also see if any of the relatives of your Crossleys are in those transcriptions, and look nearby.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Death of Robert Wadsworth from Heptonstall
« on: Sunday 07 January 18 12:34 GMT (UK)  »
Yep it's Hangingroyd Mill. Lay where Waterside Fold in Hebden Bridge now is.

"It was originally a corn mill, owned by the Cockcroft family (which is what my find said), but was later used for producing fustian. And Maureen's document also suggests some variation in the name of the mill."

Earliest surviving records (Halifax-cum-Heptonstall manor) have it rented out to the Robertshaw family from at least the 1570s. It passed through several generations, before Richard Robertshaw sold it to his first cousin William Cockcroft in the 1670s/80s. I understand that these mills were once lucrative when tenants of the manor had to pay to use them, but by the early 1600s the operators of some of the other Halifax mills started to complain they were too expensive to maintain and too many people were evading using them.

Also it is constantly referred to as a "corn mill" but I don't think they could grow corn in that area? I always took these to be bad Latin translations of a flour grinding mill for oats and barley.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Resources & Offers / Re: Yorkshire Wills Indexes - Yorkshire Archaeological Society Record Series
« on: Saturday 07 February 15 12:15 GMT (UK)  »
Worth pointing out that (most) of these can be consulted either at the YAS at Leeds (until March 2015) or the Society of Genealogists in London.

They used to be, but now don't seem to be, available online to any extent. (The last time I checked one subscription website only had three of them searchable and browseable.)

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Re: St John's, Cullingworth MIs - William Robertshaw
« on: Friday 28 February 14 19:47 GMT (UK)  »
Dob - thanks for the info, they seem to have MIs for seveal other places I am interested in so will get in touch. Hopefully all of these MIs will end up on FHS soon :)

Deetot - thanks very much for looking; that is disappointing news, but valuable nonetheless. I have no way of knowing if he had a headstone, I suppose he was a pauper? His mother was buried at Haworth, in 1844, but she has no remaining headstone either. William was my 3rd great uncle, and I have hit a brick wall getting past his father Jonathan. I do not know if there is a connection with the Alexander you found, perhaps a first cousin, but I will keep digging. Thanks for the lead.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / St John's, Cullingworth MIs - William Robertshaw
« on: Saturday 15 February 14 20:42 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone please provide me with a monumental inscription for William Robertshaw, buried at St John the Evangelist, Cullingworth (near Haworth) on June 20th 1868? Or alternatively point me in the direction of a set of transcriptions for this church (Google turns up nothing)?

Thanks!

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