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Australia / Re: Coachman's cottage of Subiaco, Rydalmere
« on: Friday 28 August 20 01:50 BST (UK)  »
I am glad it helped. It is good to be able to confirm something from the past that you know is correct.
Rydalmere has always been the poor relation to Parramatta with history groups showing little interest.
One last place you can try for a photo or information on the coach house, and the only ones likely to be able to help are the Nuns from the Benedictine Convent that owned it and lived there for 110 years.
After they sold Subiaco they moved to Pennant Hills for sometime, and then eventually to Jamberoo.
If they have anything in their archives, I am sure they would try to help.

https://www.jamberooabbey.org.au/

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Australia / Re: Coachman's cottage of Subiaco, Rydalmere
« on: Thursday 27 August 20 07:57 BST (UK)  »
Hi. I know this is a serious thread mine and you may be no longer following, but you can get a low-res aerial view of the house taken in 1943.
The Subiaco houses were demolished by Rheem in 1961. Your unlikely to find much information on the Coachmen's house, as no information or photos was kept on the cottage near the mansion that was the original 'Vineyard' built in 1792.

Anyway to get the image of the house,
1 Type 'six maps' into Google. It's a NSW Govt Lands site.  (https://maps.six.nsw.gov.au/)

2 Enter the address in the top left search box. The current satellite view will come up. Zoom in. then
go to the top right box marked 'Base Maps'. You will see a mention of 1943 map, Click that and select 1943....you can alternate from there between 1943 and current.

You can use 'print screen' to save the images to notebook to save them.
One suggestion after you have found it, enter an address in another part of the suburb so the red marker isn't on top of your subject, then go back once you know where it is.
Cheers and good luck

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Argyllshire / Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« on: Monday 18 May 20 04:16 BST (UK)  »
Lauchlan McLean of Grishipol was the joint Bailie of Tiree and leased a mill.
He would have lived there for a few years with his family until the Maclean/Argyll troubles flared and he had to flee for his life as an Argyll employee.
No other members of the family that I know of lived on Tiree.

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Argyllshire / Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« on: Sunday 17 May 20 04:12 BST (UK)  »
Only the information above on Lauchlan.
The histories only list two other brothers. Hugh and Charles who was said to be a drover on Coll.

Often the sons names reveal uncles names. John's sons were John (his and his father) Laughlan (brother) Clotworthy ( his patron Clotworthy Skeffington, 4th Viscount Massereene) and James (possibly his wife's father's name or an unknown brother of his.

John born 1700, became Vicar of Billy Co. Antrim, and James born 1707 was Curate at Rathlin Island Co. Antrim. 1740-1747

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Argyllshire / Re: Rev John Maclean, minister of Killean, Kintyre born c1670?
« on: Saturday 16 May 20 01:32 BST (UK)  »
Hello bagpipe. Rev John is an ancestor of mine. I have been digging into the family's past for 40 years and have found that the written histories are a good starting point, but not necessarily 100% correct.

He was the son of John McLean of Grishipol, a gentleman of Clan McLean of Coll.
The name has been standardised to 'Maclean' for anyone of any section of the clan by writers and historians, but it was only the last Laird of Coll during the 19th century that adopted that spelling. John used McLean until he obtained his M.A. when he added the suffix 'e', as was traditional for graduates to become Rev. John McLeane. He graduated as Master of Arts M.A. Glasgow University on the 15th June 1672.

He became a professional soldier before taking up the Parish of Kilmory on the Isle of Arran.
About 1785 he married Annabelle McNeil of the Losset family. They had two daughters Margaret and Abigail McLeane. The family moved to Ulster after John was outed from the Church.
He became minister at Coleraine, then in 1701 under the patronage of Viscount Masserenne, he gained Antrim Parish while also holding Drummaul Parish.
His first wife Annabelle had died by this time, as the Christenings of his children to his 2nd wife Annie Cubbage start appearing in the Antrim Parish register.
To verify this info you may be able to find online ; ULSTER JOURNAL OF ARCHAEOLOGY 1896 No.1

He died whilst travelling in 1729 at County Antrim, leaving his son to clear his debts.
His eldest son John became Vicar of Billy in County Antrim. Another son Rev. James McLeane was incumbent of the Island of Rathlin, 1740 -1747.

His brother Lauchlan McLean of Grishipol became joint Bailie of Tiree along with Hugh MacLean of the Boreray family for Maclean of Duart. Lauchlan kept this position under Argylls takeover of the Maclean lands with resulting consequences.

Some books covering the family include 'From Clan to Regiment' Maclean-Bristol, and various Maclean Clan histories.



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Antrim / Re: Belfast McCleans
« on: Sunday 19 July 15 07:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Vicki. Daniels father's (William McClean) family plot is in Old Rashee cemetery, Co. Antrim. details at
http://www.doaghancestry.co.uk/churches-graveyards/rashee-old-graveyard-co-antrim/
and
http://www.discovereverafter.com/plot/156447
regards John

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Antrim / Re: Belfast McCleans
« on: Saturday 23 February 13 05:04 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry about resurrecting an old thread, but I just came across it.
The "McClean's" listed in the 1805 directory Andrew, Samuel, William & Adam, were four of seven brothers who made their way independently to Belfast during the last quarter of the eighteenth century. The other three were John, James & Francis. They were from & born at Shane's Castle.
The solicitor Francis Robert McClean was Adams' son. The two addresses given were his practices, he lived in the family home at 4 Donegal Square South.
I don't know much about William apart from what is listed in the directories, ie he was a spirit dealer and Collector of Taxes. It seems possible he is the father of your Daniel, but he was definitely not from Ballykeel. All became successful merchants and dabbled in real estate, perhaps after establishing himself William purchased the Ballykeel property?

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