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Ok, my Ashcroft-Bell.. anyone connected too? I live in hope!

Aaron Ashcroft married Elizabeth Ann BELL (previous marriage Todd) 1903 (according to his Military records.

children

Isabella (Bella) 1904
Aaron 1908 John possibly went by John/Jack/Jackie
Catherine (Kate) 1912
Adeline Mary 1916

Thanks all. Yes, I have the information all given already, but thank you, as its good to have a second pair of eyes come up with the same information to confirm my details are correct. Much appreciated.

My Great Granddad (Francis McGurk) married Elizabeth Ann Ashcroft nee Bell formerly Todd (first Hubby died) Francis and Elizabeth married in 1918 and had my Granddad in 1922.

She said she was widowed, clearly not as Aaron SNR was alive until 1955 and my Francis McGurk said Bachelor but he was previously married, with a son and his wife didnt die until later on to.

Im interested in descendants of young Aaron 1908. He seems to have vanished.

Family of Ashcrofts I had contact with years ago told me children were Isabella, JOHN/JACKIE Catherine and Adeline Ashcroft not an Aaron but yes, Aaron has come up in my Francis McGurk ( under McYurk transcript error) and I have his birth certificate to confirm Aaron 1908 Parents Aaron and Elizabeth Ann.

Im thinking possibly Aaron changed his name to John as in 1930 Electoral roll an Isabella Ashcroft and a John Ashcroft are with my Elizabeth Ann Sothern, yep, now married a Myles Sothern (yep, 4 marriages)

Im interested in Aaron/John/Jackie, as a person who is a DNA link to my Mum and I, they are rather close DNA and could pass as a sibling in looks to be honest.
John/Jackie Ashcroft was a Policeman maybe London married with two kids.

Persons Father is not listed on their birth certificate.

Name she was given as a Father was a Patrick/Paddy Sothern but he doesnt seem to exist either and even if Myles and Elizabeth Ann now Sothern had a child he would be to young to be this persons Father.

The only person I can think of being her real Father is Aaron/John/Jackie Ashcroft as my Granddads brothers both died well before.

Who ever Im looking for would be born between 1900-1915.
Worked in Hastings Sussex at an Amusement Park arcade for a year or so and a Special Constable directing traffic.
He possibly went to Liverpool and became a Policeman around 1949. (why Im looking for John/Jackie Ashcroft as date of birth and Occupation fit, I know Liverpool and London two different places but one could have been told wrong)
DNA suggests born Gateshead/Durham/Yorkshire and thats where my Granddads side are from.

Any suggestions where to look? Sorry very long and convoluted..

Ele

Hi Davie, Im here, somewhere- sane today well a little more than normal!

Family still at Englishton Muir, wow.. I think there may have been a couple of Fraser families living there at the time my Frasers were there and more than likely related I would say.

I havent any notes in front of me at the moment (havent searched since last year, 3 kids keep me more than busy) but more than interested on what you know and a photo of Englishton Muir as its my Gran who was the Fraser though the family had left Inverness long before she was born.



Ta Ele.

All I have on him Im afraid.

Its a bit of a long convoluted story really but basically someone contacted me a while ago and her DNA puts her to a 1-2nd Cousin to my Mum and 2-3rd with myself.

She didnt know her Father, only a name, Patrick 'Paddy' Southern/Sothern. She was adopted at birth, no Fathers name on certificate, just what she was told. She has been searching for years to find who he was, then we came up with close DNA to my Mum and myself. The Lady actually looks like my Mum! First breakthrough in years.

My Great Gran married a Sothern, but as far as I know had no children with him so the Surname Sothern, have no DNA connection to my Family.

Her DNA matches are from my Granddads side so my Great Gran who married a Sothern. They actually lived Newcastle Upon Tyne. Just bizarre that the name Sothern came up but at this point no DNA connection to Sothern on my side.

Elizabeth had from 1st marriage Ashcroft children, then my Granddad, McGurk (he never knew his Mum) then she raised sisters children Clarkson, married 3rd Husband Sothern, no children. So, Im wondering if one of them gave a false name on meeting this Ladies Mum as he was already married, Ladies Mum was unaware at the time until she fell pregnant thats apparently why he took off to Liverpool.

Also her husband, Myles Sothern couldnt be the Father to this Lady as he died well prior to her Birth.

Just was hoping somehow to find some Special Constable listing perhaps as she was told he was in Hastings then went to Liverpool apparently c1948.

I know its a bit of a needle in a haystack but you never know and yep, long and convoluted surrounding my Great Gran lol.

Ele

yes  :-)