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Hi,

I am trying to trace any ancestors of Catherine JUDGE, nee MADDEN, born abt 1856 in Bradford.  To date I have only managed to find her in the 1881 Census.  The details I have are:


1881 – Bradford (RG11/4449, Folio 33, Page 14)
Patrick JUDGE, Lodger (Hd), 36, Mason, Ross County - Ireland
*Cale JUDGE, Wf, 25, ,Bradford – Yorks
Mary E JUDGE, Dau, 5, Scholar, Bradford – Yorks
Andrew JUDGE, Son, 3, , Bradford – Yorks
Sarah E JUDGE, Dau, 1, , Bradford – Yorks

*I have no idea why this is “Cale”, but it is the Catherine JUDGE, nee MADDEN, I’m looking for.

They were married in January 1876, in Bradford.  They also had a son in 1882, called Lawrence.  Brothers Lawrence and Andrew are “Lodgers” on the 1901 Census (RG13/4257, Folio 62, Page 1).

Catherine’s father was Lawrence MADDEN (marriage cert), but I have no idea who her mother was.  It is possible that Lawrence originally came from Ireland.

Could anyone be kind enough to look for Catherine MADDEN on the 1871 and 1861 Census for me, please?

If there is also a Patrick BREHENY (or JUDGE) that was on the 1871 or 1861 Census that was born abt 1845, Ross County, Ireland, that would be a bonus.  According to the marriage certificate, Patrick’s father was called Arthur BREHENY.

(Note: The name BREHENY was “Anglicised’” to JUDGE later.) 

Regards

David

Hi Gabby,

Yes, I am still trying to find other sources for these two.  This is what I have:

By 1881, Ann was a widow.  Francis had died in 1874 Dec q.  She went on to marry a John Best, who was from Durham (according to subsequent Census).

The Census details I have are:

1881 – Skelton (RG11/4842 p.38?)

John BEST, Hd, 34, Iron Mining, not known
Ann BEST, Wf, 36, ,Pocklington – Yorks       (Formerly Ann ALLISON)
John W BEST, S, 12, Scholar, Skelton – Yorks
Francis BEST, S, 10, Scholar, Skelton – Yorks
George BEST, S, 5, Scholar, Skelton – Yorks
Tom BEST, S, 3, Scholar, Skelton – Yorks
Polly BEST, Da, 7, Scholar, Skelton – Yorks
Ada BEST, Da, 6, Scholar, Skelton – Yorks
*Minnie BEST, Da, 8, Scholar, Skelton – Yorks
(* I think this should read 8 months)


1871 – North Kilvington (RG10/4836 p.2)

Francis ALLISON, Hd, 27, Ag Lab, Dunnington - Yorks
Ann ALLISON, Wf, 25, ,Pocklington – Yorks
John W ALLISON, S, 1, , Askham – Yorks


1861 – Sutton on Derwent (RG9/3558 p.10)

Francis ALLISON, Hd, 19, Farm Servant, Dunnington – Yorks

I know that Francis married Anne Elizabeth WILKINSON the June quarter of 1867.  I also believe that I have found the right Francis ALLISON on LDS being christened on 21st March 1842.  This has his parents as John ALLISON and Barbara.  What I would like to be able to confirm is that Francis’ parents are indeed John and Barbara on the 1851 Census, if possible.

I could not find an Anne Elizabeth WILKINSON on the 1861 Census.  I do think I have the right one on LDS being christened 5th Jan 1844. This has her parents as being John and Mary.  Again the 1851 Census could verify this for me.

If you are able to help here, too, that would be great.

Kind regards

David

Hi Pauline/Tanja,

On his birth cert, there is no mention of a father, only his mother, Caroline.  This is most likely why this Edward was born in the Poor House at Huddersfield - unmarried mother, very taboo at that time. 

I can't help but think that this may be wrong, as it contradicts all the Census' details about his birth place.

The 1861 would make sense to me, a) because birthplace location is, I believe, in the same area as Mosley/Oldham, and b) - a longshot - the fact that he became a Publican in later life.  Influenced by David Wass in his early years?

If he is on the 1851 Census anywhere, that just may tie things up.........or will it!  :-

Thank you both for your responses.

Regards

David

I am trying to get some more information on the family of Ann Elizabeth WILKINSON (b. 1843).  I have details of who she married - a certain Francis ALLISON - and subsequent descendants.

I believe that her parents may have been called John and Mary.

If anyone can help with information about her family from these Census, that would be great.