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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Priaulx - Descendants of Jean/John and Nancy Williams
« on: Wednesday 01 May 13 22:21 BST (UK) »
Yes. It is Guernsey.
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Australia / Re: PREEO - James Henry. What was his fate?
« on: Wednesday 01 May 13 06:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks to you all for your input. I have attached a narrative which will answer a number of questions that you have posed and will put hopefully answer them. I have attempted to post the document that the narrative came from but it is too large. I should have done this earlier.
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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Priaulx - Descendants of Jean/John and Nancy Williams
« on: Wednesday 01 May 13 03:22 BST (UK) »
Jean or John Priaulx (1823 - 1871) and Nancy Williams (1831 - 1867) of Jerbourg, St Martins, are my gg grandparents.
I believe they had 6 known children, Nancy C Abt 1855, Mary Jane Abt 1856, John P Abt 1859, (1861 Census), William Nicholas 1861, James Henry 1864 (my g grandfather) and Lucy H 1865 (I can't find my sources for Lucy).
I have fairly good records for William and James, however, I would like to know what fate had in store for Nancy, Mary Jane, John and Lucy. Did they die early, get married, have families?
I would also like to know whether William had a published obituary as he appeared to be a well known character and died at such an old age, 104.
terry preeo
Sydney Australia
I believe they had 6 known children, Nancy C Abt 1855, Mary Jane Abt 1856, John P Abt 1859, (1861 Census), William Nicholas 1861, James Henry 1864 (my g grandfather) and Lucy H 1865 (I can't find my sources for Lucy).
I have fairly good records for William and James, however, I would like to know what fate had in store for Nancy, Mary Jane, John and Lucy. Did they die early, get married, have families?
I would also like to know whether William had a published obituary as he appeared to be a well known character and died at such an old age, 104.
terry preeo
Sydney Australia
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Australia / Re: PREEO - James Henry. What was his fate?
« on: Wednesday 01 May 13 01:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Neil
Thanks for you efforts. I have the Guernsey side of things covered. The Priaulx Library was started by Carteret Priaulx, a merchant who had a role in starting the first bank in Guernsey. I gather the merchants of the time were boarderline pirates. No relation. My family originated in the Forest, or la Floret, and then St Martins, both parishes. I was fortunate enough to visit Guernsey in 2011 and, as they say, trod the paths of my ancestors. Anyone researching Channel Islands ancestors is fortunate because of the wealth of information available to them, although much is only available on the island and most of that, particularly the parish records, have not been digitised. Guernsey has an active genealogical society.
There are no records to suggest James moved back to Guernsey and I can't find a record of him leaving Australia.
The 1881 census record you mentioned is correct. His grandfather, Jean, and James were living with Jean's daughter, James' aunt, Lucie Moon, in St Peters Port. It was here that James learnt his trade of Tailor as that was his uncle James' trade.
Thanks for you efforts. I have the Guernsey side of things covered. The Priaulx Library was started by Carteret Priaulx, a merchant who had a role in starting the first bank in Guernsey. I gather the merchants of the time were boarderline pirates. No relation. My family originated in the Forest, or la Floret, and then St Martins, both parishes. I was fortunate enough to visit Guernsey in 2011 and, as they say, trod the paths of my ancestors. Anyone researching Channel Islands ancestors is fortunate because of the wealth of information available to them, although much is only available on the island and most of that, particularly the parish records, have not been digitised. Guernsey has an active genealogical society.
There are no records to suggest James moved back to Guernsey and I can't find a record of him leaving Australia.
The 1881 census record you mentioned is correct. His grandfather, Jean, and James were living with Jean's daughter, James' aunt, Lucie Moon, in St Peters Port. It was here that James learnt his trade of Tailor as that was his uncle James' trade.
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Australia / Re: PREEO - James Henry. What was his fate?
« on: Tuesday 30 April 13 23:22 BST (UK) »
The Wallerawang record is a new on on me and seems a little bit out of kilter with the rest of the narrative. However, the Preeo spelling of Priaulx is unique to my family. Sarah may have accompanied James there before moving into 65 Wilson St where she ran a boarding house for some time. She lived there until her death in 1940.
I hadn't got a transcript of their marriage cert, basically because I thought I had all the details I needed. Quite happy to get one if you think it would add value.
Additionally, I just assumed that Channel Islanders would be classed as British. The Channel Islands are part of the UK and have been since 1200, even though it has its own currency and passports. James came out on the Abergeldie which brought out many British migrants from Portsmouth. The ships record doesn't indicate nationality.
I hadn't got a transcript of their marriage cert, basically because I thought I had all the details I needed. Quite happy to get one if you think it would add value.
Additionally, I just assumed that Channel Islanders would be classed as British. The Channel Islands are part of the UK and have been since 1200, even though it has its own currency and passports. James came out on the Abergeldie which brought out many British migrants from Portsmouth. The ships record doesn't indicate nationality.
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Australia / Re: PREEO - James Henry. What was his fate?
« on: Tuesday 30 April 13 13:00 BST (UK) »
I have the impression that James had left the relationship with Sarah around 1900 and that she had moved in with her father, William, at Newtown/Macdonaldtown, who had rescued her from the slums of Surry Hills. I also have the impression, from family recollections, that James then led an itinerant life from then on.
Sarah and James had a hard life and it seems that James was a victim of the Depression of the 1890s. After their marriage at Uralla they moved in with Sarah's parents at Murrurundi (Sarah was 16) and then to Lismore/Broadwater before ending up in he slums of Surry Hills mid 1890s. James was orphaned in Guernsey at the age of 6. He lived with his aunt and emigrated to NSW in 1882 at the age of 18. Not the most auspicious upbringing and one thinks one that did not prepare him for life in the colonies.
As for the spelling of Preeo, I can vouch for the mismatch of spellings having put up with many versions in my life. Pree, Prees, Prior, Preed, Preeco, Preo, Prio, just to name a few.
Sarah and James had a hard life and it seems that James was a victim of the Depression of the 1890s. After their marriage at Uralla they moved in with Sarah's parents at Murrurundi (Sarah was 16) and then to Lismore/Broadwater before ending up in he slums of Surry Hills mid 1890s. James was orphaned in Guernsey at the age of 6. He lived with his aunt and emigrated to NSW in 1882 at the age of 18. Not the most auspicious upbringing and one thinks one that did not prepare him for life in the colonies.
As for the spelling of Preeo, I can vouch for the mismatch of spellings having put up with many versions in my life. Pree, Prees, Prior, Preed, Preeco, Preo, Prio, just to name a few.
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Australia / Re: PREEO - James Henry. What was his fate?
« on: Tuesday 30 April 13 10:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks All
The Queensland Priaulx's are an unrelated branch, I think they originally came to Australia through SA.
I have the TROVE references that you have mentioned and, Judith, you are on the money as to the names of his parents, Father's Name: Jean Priaulx Mother's Name: Nancy Williams. I have traced my Priaulx family in Guernsey back to 1600 if anyone's interested.
terry
The Queensland Priaulx's are an unrelated branch, I think they originally came to Australia through SA.
I have the TROVE references that you have mentioned and, Judith, you are on the money as to the names of his parents, Father's Name: Jean Priaulx Mother's Name: Nancy Williams. I have traced my Priaulx family in Guernsey back to 1600 if anyone's interested.
terry
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Australia / Re: Peter McCALLUM. When did he immigrate and what happened to him?
« on: Tuesday 30 April 13 10:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cando. Thomas, Peter's youngest, wasn't born until 1902 so it it's probably a long shot.
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Australia / Peter McCALLUM. When did he immigrate and what happened to him?
« on: Tuesday 30 April 13 00:57 BST (UK) »
Peter McCallum was born in Glasgow in 1864. His parents were Daniel McCallum and Esther Barr. He had brothers, Hugh and James, and a sister, Jessie.
Peter immigrated to Australia sometime between 1881 and 1891. He may have been accompanied by Hugh and /or James. The first record I have of him is when he posted his mother’s death notice in the Sydney Morning Herald on 10 February 1891.
Daniel, Esther and Jessie immigrated to Sydney as unassisted migrants in 1888. Daniel died in 1900 and Jessie (Hotson) in 1952.
Unfortunately I can’t locate Peter’s immigration records. I have no information on his death or departing Australia, however, there is a possible mention of him in the police gazette in 1901 when a Peter McCallum was the victim of a robbery on Flag Staff Hill, now Observatory Hill, Millers Point. There is a family story that Peter enlisted for the Boer War, met someone in South Africa and never returned. However, I can't find his name on the enlistment roll for that conflict, or indeed the Great War.
The records we have of Peter in Australia is his marriage to Rose Cremin in 1893 and the birth certificates of his sons, Donald (1894), Joseph (1895) and Thomas (1902). He lived in Balmain from 1893 to 1899 at a number of addresses (Sands Directory). He was named as a Clerk at the "South Seas Trading Company" on Thomas' certificate. As Rose was the informant on that certificate I presume that the relationship had ended before this date and the information not accurate. Rose did enter another relationship around this time, although she never remarried.
Any assistance on tracing his immigration record and what became of him would be appreciated.
Peter immigrated to Australia sometime between 1881 and 1891. He may have been accompanied by Hugh and /or James. The first record I have of him is when he posted his mother’s death notice in the Sydney Morning Herald on 10 February 1891.
Daniel, Esther and Jessie immigrated to Sydney as unassisted migrants in 1888. Daniel died in 1900 and Jessie (Hotson) in 1952.
Unfortunately I can’t locate Peter’s immigration records. I have no information on his death or departing Australia, however, there is a possible mention of him in the police gazette in 1901 when a Peter McCallum was the victim of a robbery on Flag Staff Hill, now Observatory Hill, Millers Point. There is a family story that Peter enlisted for the Boer War, met someone in South Africa and never returned. However, I can't find his name on the enlistment roll for that conflict, or indeed the Great War.
The records we have of Peter in Australia is his marriage to Rose Cremin in 1893 and the birth certificates of his sons, Donald (1894), Joseph (1895) and Thomas (1902). He lived in Balmain from 1893 to 1899 at a number of addresses (Sands Directory). He was named as a Clerk at the "South Seas Trading Company" on Thomas' certificate. As Rose was the informant on that certificate I presume that the relationship had ended before this date and the information not accurate. Rose did enter another relationship around this time, although she never remarried.
Any assistance on tracing his immigration record and what became of him would be appreciated.
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