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World War Two / Re: Maj Edwyn Edgar Bruce Green
« on: Friday 12 December 14 00:44 GMT (UK) »
Ibbotson: Do you by any chance have a photo of Major Green? Gunner 1
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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Artillery Forts in Portsmouth/Gosport/IOW
« on: Monday 24 June 13 22:36 BST (UK) »
OVLHS_Secretary: It is somewhat difficult to answer your question as Battery Records of the Royal Artillerydetails the movements of individual batteries rather than the brigade as a whole, and during the period to which you refer 10th Brigade, RA had up to eight batteries. If you could be somewhat more definite as to exactly when he served at Blockhouse Fort, Fort Monkton, Fort Elson, etc. I might be able to determine in which battery of 10th Brigade, RA he served and give you more detailed information concerning the movements of that particular battery.
Regards, Dick Flory
Regards, Dick Flory
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World War Two / Re: Maj Edwyn Edgar Bruce Green
« on: Wednesday 10 April 13 06:18 BST (UK) »
Major Alwyn Edgar Bruce Green, RA
Green was born on 15 September 1918, the son of Edgar Bruce Green, Harbor Master at Shanghai, and his wife, Bertha Victoria Green. On 21 November 1932 he arrived with family at London on the Fushimi Maru from Shanghai. He enlisted as a Gunner in the Mobilized Territorial Army on 2 September 1939. He served in the ranks in Honourable Artillery Corps Officer Cadet Training Unit for 342 days before being commissioned as 2nd Lieutenant, R. A. (Regular Army Emergency Commission) on 10 August 1940. On 6 February 1946 he was promoted to War Substantive Lieutenant with seniority from 27 October 1941 and on 6 February 1946 he was accepted into the Regular Army as a Lieutenant with a date of rank of 27 August 1941.
He was appointed as an Acting Captain, RA from 20 March 1943 to 19 June 1943 and as a Temporary Captain, RA from 20 June 1943 to 30 July 1944 and from 7 March 1945 to 30 June 1946. He graduated from No. 34 Air Observation Course, Light Aircraft School and qualified as Light Aircraft Pilot (Fixed Wing) and was an Auster Air Observation Post pilot for the remainder of the war.
Green was appointed to a Regular Commission in the Royal Artillery with the rank of Lieutenant, RA on 6 February 1946 with a date of rank of 27 August 1941. In 1946 he was serving in G Operations, B. T. A., C. M. F. He was promoted to Captain, RA on 1 July 1946 and from 1946 to 1948 he served as an Instructor at the Royal Military College, Sandhurst. He passed the Staff College in 1950 and was promoted to Major, RA on 27 February 1953.
From I May 1953 to 26 January 1955 he was posted to Anti-aircraft Artillery, Middle Eastern Land Forces. He was posted as a General Staff Officer II at the School of Artillery (TAC) at Manorbier, Pembs. from 27 January 1955 to 3 February 1957 and then served with Anti-aircraft Artillery, Middle Eastern Land Forces from 4 February 1957 to 8 August 1960. Green retired on 9 August 1960 and was still alive in 1990.
Green had a sister, Joyce Bruce Green, who was a year younger than he was; and a brother, Norman Cecil Bruce who was four years younger.
Green was born on 15 September 1918, the son of Edgar Bruce Green, Harbor Master at Shanghai, and his wife, Bertha Victoria Green. On 21 November 1932 he arrived with family at London on the Fushimi Maru from Shanghai. He enlisted as a Gunner in the Mobilized Territorial Army on 2 September 1939. He served in the ranks in Honourable Artillery Corps Officer Cadet Training Unit for 342 days before being commissioned as 2nd Lieutenant, R. A. (Regular Army Emergency Commission) on 10 August 1940. On 6 February 1946 he was promoted to War Substantive Lieutenant with seniority from 27 October 1941 and on 6 February 1946 he was accepted into the Regular Army as a Lieutenant with a date of rank of 27 August 1941.
He was appointed as an Acting Captain, RA from 20 March 1943 to 19 June 1943 and as a Temporary Captain, RA from 20 June 1943 to 30 July 1944 and from 7 March 1945 to 30 June 1946. He graduated from No. 34 Air Observation Course, Light Aircraft School and qualified as Light Aircraft Pilot (Fixed Wing) and was an Auster Air Observation Post pilot for the remainder of the war.
Green was appointed to a Regular Commission in the Royal Artillery with the rank of Lieutenant, RA on 6 February 1946 with a date of rank of 27 August 1941. In 1946 he was serving in G Operations, B. T. A., C. M. F. He was promoted to Captain, RA on 1 July 1946 and from 1946 to 1948 he served as an Instructor at the Royal Military College, Sandhurst. He passed the Staff College in 1950 and was promoted to Major, RA on 27 February 1953.
From I May 1953 to 26 January 1955 he was posted to Anti-aircraft Artillery, Middle Eastern Land Forces. He was posted as a General Staff Officer II at the School of Artillery (TAC) at Manorbier, Pembs. from 27 January 1955 to 3 February 1957 and then served with Anti-aircraft Artillery, Middle Eastern Land Forces from 4 February 1957 to 8 August 1960. Green retired on 9 August 1960 and was still alive in 1990.
Green had a sister, Joyce Bruce Green, who was a year younger than he was; and a brother, Norman Cecil Bruce who was four years younger.
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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Artillery Forts in Portsmouth/Gosport/IOW
« on: Sunday 06 January 13 08:15 GMT (UK) »
Robert: 7th Battery, 21st Brigade was Gosport from January 1869 to May 1870; at Woolwich from June 1870 to April 1872; at Golden Hill, Isle of Wight from May 1872 through January 1876. Unfortunately the volume does not indicate which forts the battery was at.
Regards, Dick Flory
Regards, Dick Flory
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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Horse Artillery?
« on: Tuesday 01 January 13 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Heather: Driver J H Yeoman, S Battery, RHA received the Royal Victorian Medal (Queen Victoria) in Bronze in February 1901 for his services at Her Majesty's Funeral (Reference: Royal Service, Volume 1 by Galloway, Stanley and Martin.)
Short History of "S" Battery 1826-1926 indicates the following:
"1901: The Battery had the honour of finding a team and detachment to take part in the funeral procession at Windsor of her Majesty Queen Victoria. Lt. M. L. Goldie was in charge, receiving the MVO. The fourteen other ranks present received the Royal Victorian Medal.
The team was detailed to draw the coffin, which weighed some two tons with its heavy leaden casing, from Windsor Station to St. George's Chapel. A special gun carriage was provided which had been in the Royal Coachbuilder's hands for some days for fitting rubber tyres and making other alterations. The day in question was bitterly cold. When the time came to move off, the combination of cold and muffled drums caused the horses to plunge forward. One of the hooks on the splinter bar broke and the swingle tree fell on the wheelers' hocks causing further confusion. The team was take out and bluejackes pulled the gun carriage to the chapel.
After the lying-in-state the same team and gun-carriage took the coffin to Frogmore. Rehearsal had proved the brakes to be untrustworthy and descending the hill from the Castle, they gave out. Lt Goldie immediately ordered dragropes rear so as to take the weight off the wheel horses. Most of the crowned heads (including the Kaiser) and equerries joined in hanging on to the drag ropes and helped to avert what might have been a most unfortunate incident.
Much copy was made of both incidents, but no blame was attributable to either men or horses of the Battery."
Regards, Gunner 1
Short History of "S" Battery 1826-1926 indicates the following:
"1901: The Battery had the honour of finding a team and detachment to take part in the funeral procession at Windsor of her Majesty Queen Victoria. Lt. M. L. Goldie was in charge, receiving the MVO. The fourteen other ranks present received the Royal Victorian Medal.
The team was detailed to draw the coffin, which weighed some two tons with its heavy leaden casing, from Windsor Station to St. George's Chapel. A special gun carriage was provided which had been in the Royal Coachbuilder's hands for some days for fitting rubber tyres and making other alterations. The day in question was bitterly cold. When the time came to move off, the combination of cold and muffled drums caused the horses to plunge forward. One of the hooks on the splinter bar broke and the swingle tree fell on the wheelers' hocks causing further confusion. The team was take out and bluejackes pulled the gun carriage to the chapel.
After the lying-in-state the same team and gun-carriage took the coffin to Frogmore. Rehearsal had proved the brakes to be untrustworthy and descending the hill from the Castle, they gave out. Lt Goldie immediately ordered dragropes rear so as to take the weight off the wheel horses. Most of the crowned heads (including the Kaiser) and equerries joined in hanging on to the drag ropes and helped to avert what might have been a most unfortunate incident.
Much copy was made of both incidents, but no blame was attributable to either men or horses of the Battery."
Regards, Gunner 1
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Armed Forces / Re: Royal Artillery Forts in Portsmouth/Gosport/IOW
« on: Tuesday 01 January 13 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Robert: There is a two-volume set entitled Battery Records of the Royal Artillery that indicates where each battery/company of the Royal Artillery was located on a month-to-month basis. Volume one covers the period 1716 to 1859 and volume two covers 1859 to 1877. The is a manuscript available of the third volume (it has never been published) that covers the period 1877 to 1898. I have all three volumes and will help you the best I can.
In 1868 the only battery of 21st Brigade, RA that was at Woolwich was 2nd Battery, 21st Brigade, RA landed at Portsmouth on HMS Troopship Serapis on 18 Jan 1868 and moved to Woolwich where it remained until 24 Jun 1868. It then embarked at Woolwich on the SS Lady Eglinton and landed at Portsmouth on 25 June 1868. From July to December 1868 it was at Gosport. From January 1869 to May 1870 the Battery served on the Isle of Wight. on 17 May 1870 the battery embarked on HM Troopship Tamar at Portsmouth Dockyard and sailed at 9.20 am the next day. It moored off Gravesend and the battery disembarked on 20 May 1870 and marched to Shoeburyness. On 23 May 1871 it moved by rail to Woolwich. On 18 October 1871 the battery embarked at Woolwich on the SS
Lady Wodehouse and landed at Jersey on 23 October 1871. It remained at Jersey until moving to Portsmouth on 14 June 1873 where it remained until January 1876.
Woolwich was the home of the Royal Artillery which maintained training facilities and a depot there.
Shoeburyness was a training area for the RA and was used for firing exercises. At Portsmouth, Gosport, Jersey, and the Isle of Wight the company probably manned the guns of coastal fortresses but I do not know which ones.
Gunner 1
In 1868 the only battery of 21st Brigade, RA that was at Woolwich was 2nd Battery, 21st Brigade, RA landed at Portsmouth on HMS Troopship Serapis on 18 Jan 1868 and moved to Woolwich where it remained until 24 Jun 1868. It then embarked at Woolwich on the SS Lady Eglinton and landed at Portsmouth on 25 June 1868. From July to December 1868 it was at Gosport. From January 1869 to May 1870 the Battery served on the Isle of Wight. on 17 May 1870 the battery embarked on HM Troopship Tamar at Portsmouth Dockyard and sailed at 9.20 am the next day. It moored off Gravesend and the battery disembarked on 20 May 1870 and marched to Shoeburyness. On 23 May 1871 it moved by rail to Woolwich. On 18 October 1871 the battery embarked at Woolwich on the SS
Lady Wodehouse and landed at Jersey on 23 October 1871. It remained at Jersey until moving to Portsmouth on 14 June 1873 where it remained until January 1876.
Woolwich was the home of the Royal Artillery which maintained training facilities and a depot there.
Shoeburyness was a training area for the RA and was used for firing exercises. At Portsmouth, Gosport, Jersey, and the Isle of Wight the company probably manned the guns of coastal fortresses but I do not know which ones.
Gunner 1
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World War One / Re: 173rd Siege Battery
« on: Tuesday 01 January 13 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Jeffrey: John (txic) sent me an email about your posting and I also would be very happy to help you in any way I can. As you may be aware the only the April 1917 to June 1917 portion of the 173rd Siege Batteries war diary is a available at The National Archives, the remainder has never been located. That makes your grandfather's diary very important to researchers of that battery.
I can give you some information on the officers in the photo:
2nd Lieut. John Charles Walton was educated at Tonbridge School. In 1916 he was Asst. Private Secretary to the Secretary of State for India. He came home and was appointed an RGA Officer Cadet on 12 May 16 and commissioned 2nd Lieut, RGA (SR) on 19 Aug 16. He served with 173 Siege Battery in France and Belgium from 4 Oct 16 to the end of the war. He participated in the battle of Ancre, the capture of Beaumont Hamel, the battle of the Somme, the Ancre-Bapaume operations, the Battle of Arras and Vimy Ridge, and the Lens operations until being wounded by a HE shell splinter in the head on 16 June 1917. He was invalided home where he remained from 12 Dec 17 to 12 Aug 18 serving as an Officer in No. 2 Cadet School at Maresfield. He rejoined 173 Siege Battery on 15 Aug 18 and took part in the following actions: 2nd Battle of Arras, Ancre-Bapaume, battle of the Drocourt-Queant line, Battle of the Hindenburg Line, Havrincourt-Gouzeaucourt, Cambrai-St Quentin, Le Cateau, Battle of the Selle, Vendegies , and Ghissingnies-Le Quesnoy. He disembarked for the UK on 18 Dec 18 and relinquished his commission with the rank of Lieutenant on 1 Apr 20. He was awarded the Military Cross in the London Gazette of 3 June 20 for distinguished service with 173rd Siege Battery. After the war he continued his service in the India Office rising to Asst Under-Secretary of State for India in 1936 and Deputy Under-Secretary of State for Burma in 1942. He was made a Commander of the Order of the Bath in 1930 and a Knights Cross, Order of the Indian Empire in 1942. Retired in 1946 and lived at 37 Clifton Hill, St Johns Wood.
Major John Thomas Garriock died of wounds on 3 April 1918 while in command of 173 Siege Battery, RGA
Major Arthur Sydney Ponsonby McGhee was a regular officer and a veteran of the South African War 1899-1902. He commanded 173 Siege Battery for the early part of the war and was then promoted to Acting Lieut. Colonel and during 1918 and 1919 he commanded 10th Brigade, RGA. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Order in the London Gazette of 3 June 1919 and three times mentioned in despatches in the London Gazette: 14 Dec 17, 23 Dec 1918 and 7 July 1919. He retired as a Lieut. Colonel, RGA on 7 June 1921.
Captain R W Rice, was a territorial officer who served with the regular RGA. He left 173 Siege Battery, RGA in 1917 and on 25 Sept 1917 he went overseas with 443 Siege Battery, RGA and was mentioned in despatches in the London Gazette of 7 July 1919 for distinguished service with that unit.
Lieut. Stephen Glynne Hughes was commissioned from the University of London Officer Training Corps and served with 173 Siege Battery in France and Flanders from September 1916 to August 1917 when he was invalided out of the service.
Who was your grandfather?
Please feel free to contact me at any time. I would very much like to see a copy of the diary when it is completed.
Regards, Dick Flory
I can give you some information on the officers in the photo:
2nd Lieut. John Charles Walton was educated at Tonbridge School. In 1916 he was Asst. Private Secretary to the Secretary of State for India. He came home and was appointed an RGA Officer Cadet on 12 May 16 and commissioned 2nd Lieut, RGA (SR) on 19 Aug 16. He served with 173 Siege Battery in France and Belgium from 4 Oct 16 to the end of the war. He participated in the battle of Ancre, the capture of Beaumont Hamel, the battle of the Somme, the Ancre-Bapaume operations, the Battle of Arras and Vimy Ridge, and the Lens operations until being wounded by a HE shell splinter in the head on 16 June 1917. He was invalided home where he remained from 12 Dec 17 to 12 Aug 18 serving as an Officer in No. 2 Cadet School at Maresfield. He rejoined 173 Siege Battery on 15 Aug 18 and took part in the following actions: 2nd Battle of Arras, Ancre-Bapaume, battle of the Drocourt-Queant line, Battle of the Hindenburg Line, Havrincourt-Gouzeaucourt, Cambrai-St Quentin, Le Cateau, Battle of the Selle, Vendegies , and Ghissingnies-Le Quesnoy. He disembarked for the UK on 18 Dec 18 and relinquished his commission with the rank of Lieutenant on 1 Apr 20. He was awarded the Military Cross in the London Gazette of 3 June 20 for distinguished service with 173rd Siege Battery. After the war he continued his service in the India Office rising to Asst Under-Secretary of State for India in 1936 and Deputy Under-Secretary of State for Burma in 1942. He was made a Commander of the Order of the Bath in 1930 and a Knights Cross, Order of the Indian Empire in 1942. Retired in 1946 and lived at 37 Clifton Hill, St Johns Wood.
Major John Thomas Garriock died of wounds on 3 April 1918 while in command of 173 Siege Battery, RGA
Major Arthur Sydney Ponsonby McGhee was a regular officer and a veteran of the South African War 1899-1902. He commanded 173 Siege Battery for the early part of the war and was then promoted to Acting Lieut. Colonel and during 1918 and 1919 he commanded 10th Brigade, RGA. He was awarded the Distinguished Service Order in the London Gazette of 3 June 1919 and three times mentioned in despatches in the London Gazette: 14 Dec 17, 23 Dec 1918 and 7 July 1919. He retired as a Lieut. Colonel, RGA on 7 June 1921.
Captain R W Rice, was a territorial officer who served with the regular RGA. He left 173 Siege Battery, RGA in 1917 and on 25 Sept 1917 he went overseas with 443 Siege Battery, RGA and was mentioned in despatches in the London Gazette of 7 July 1919 for distinguished service with that unit.
Lieut. Stephen Glynne Hughes was commissioned from the University of London Officer Training Corps and served with 173 Siege Battery in France and Flanders from September 1916 to August 1917 when he was invalided out of the service.
Who was your grandfather?
Please feel free to contact me at any time. I would very much like to see a copy of the diary when it is completed.
Regards, Dick Flory
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