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The Common Room / Re: Father Adopts Own Child???
« on: Sunday 29 November 20 08:03 GMT (UK)  »
Willyam

Thank you for this, I will pass this onto to my colleague.

Steve

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The Common Room / Re: Father Adopts Own Child???
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 21:44 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all, that answers our joint question. I will pass on what you have all said to my colleague.

Steve

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The Common Room / Re: Father Adopts Own Child???
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 19:20 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you both for the replies.

My colleague and I were discussing the possible reason for their male relatives, father's name missing of the birth certificate.

The child took the mothers maiden name as a surname. The mother later married (thought likely to the real father of the child). The child ended up with a double barrelled surname (mothers maiden surname and the mothers new husband's surname). Later in life the now adult child "dropped" the first part of their surname (mothers maiden name).

The phrase "adopted" has been used as a way of explaining the change of surname for the child and lack of a father on the birth certificate. We of course had to consider that the mother really didn't know who the father was, but it is thought possible they weren't married or living together at the time the child was born.

Steve

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The Common Room / Father Adopts Own Child???
« on: Saturday 28 November 20 18:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All

I am currently "helping" a work colleague do their family tree, to be fair the help consists of no more than, me suggesting where they could/should look, and them going away and doing the finding the information for themselves.

However a general question has arisen from all of this. Has anyone come across/heard of an example, where a child is born out of wedlock, the fathers name is missing off the birth certificate, the child takes the mothers maiden name, at a later date the parents marry and the father "adopts" their own child, and the child then takes the father's name.

The names aren't important, but this relates to an area of Wolverhampton in the late 1920's. We are both interested to learn if this sort of thing happened and how common.

Steve

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Warwickshire / Re: Baxters of Hansons Bridge Road, Birmingham
« on: Saturday 30 December 17 22:26 GMT (UK)  »
Ah found the marriage I had lost - it was transcribed as Janes not Jones

Father for George William is George a paper maker

Thanks for that, gives me something to work on when looking in the census returns. I will let you know if I find any children (without posting names of course) for Herbert and Barbara.


I found no Baxter's born during the period Barbara was alive with the mothers surname given as Lyon, there were a number where the mothers maiden name was listed as Baxter, which may be worth a look at. I have come across this before on other branches of the family tree, where the mothers married name was given as her maiden name.

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Warwickshire / Re: Baxters of Hansons Bridge Road, Birmingham
« on: Tuesday 21 November 17 11:12 GMT (UK)  »
Does the name Gosling mean anything?

Was Eaden her mothers maiden name, wondering why it wasn't White same as Emily.  Unless she had remarried  :)

Her maiden name was Peers, first marriage to a Joseph White. Eaden is from her second marriage to Henry Thomas Eaden. At the moment Gosling doesn't mean anything.

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Warwickshire / Re: Baxters of Hansons Bridge Road, Birmingham
« on: Tuesday 21 November 17 10:40 GMT (UK)  »
Had a quick look and couldn't see any but you may have more luck.

I take it Emily was a spinster throughout?

Yes she was, we don't know if she ever had a man in her life, even if she did, she never married.

Regarding Beales St. When Emily's mother Mary Leah Eaden died in April 1922. The informant was Emily and she gave her address as 30 Beales St, Aston Manor.

This left just her from her immediate family, her father died in 1918, her brother DOW in 1915.

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Warwickshire / Re: Baxters of Hansons Bridge Road, Birmingham
« on: Tuesday 21 November 17 10:06 GMT (UK)  »
Ah found the marriage I had lost - it was transcribed as Janes not Jones

Father for George William is George a paper maker

Thanks for that, gives me something to work on when looking in the census returns. I will let you know if I find any children (without posting names of course) for Herbert and Barbara.

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Warwickshire / Re: Baxters of Hansons Bridge Road, Birmingham
« on: Tuesday 21 November 17 10:03 GMT (UK)  »
Marriage Sep 1952 Birmingham

Herbert W Baxter
Barbara J Lyon

so you could check for children there, bit recent to post any names.

That would be the Barbara J Baxter at Hansons Bridge Road then, I will start looking through the birth records for any children.

The electoral register clearly puts Eva at 30 Beales St a lot earlier than I originally thought, I suspect she was there from the beginning (1920) and for some reason didn't register in certain years.

Buy the time she died aged 82 in 1955, Emily White was listed on the cremation records as "retired", not surprising given her age.

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