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Messages - Rachel Bowen

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Monmouthshire / Re: Commercial Travellers/ Sales Reps
« on: Friday 22 August 08 10:42 BST (UK)  »
John William was staying at the Star Inn in Llanover in 1881 - recorded as Visitor, Commercial Traveller, but no other details.

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Monmouthshire / Re: Commercial Travellers/ Sales Reps
« on: Friday 22 August 08 09:57 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
 Thanks for your thoughts. John William Bowen was  not related to the grocer's family where he was lodged the night of the census, although his wife was born Caroline (Carrie) Jones of Machen.

He had nothing to do with the grocery business, and I decipher the name of the company as Castillion.
I'll have another look at the census returns and think again.

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Wales / Re: Welsh translation/location please
« on: Friday 22 August 08 09:48 BST (UK)  »
If you could put a scan of the words/placenames you are looking for, it would help.
I originate from Ruabon and maybe I could recognose them from the handwriting. There were many variations used, For Example, Ruabon is used today You can find Rhiwabon, Rhuabon, Rhiwfabon - and of course the handwriting may be poor, or as someone else said, the person who was doing the recording was possibly not completely literate, and of course, many census enumerators had no knowledge of Welsh, or how to write it and would often just write down what to them was a phonetic spelling of a placename, or even person's name.

Rachel Bowen, France

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Denbighshire / Re: Clocaenog/Melin-y-Wig
« on: Tuesday 19 February 08 09:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hello, I don't know of a 'Lodge Uchaf', but There was a Ty Uchaf - meaning upper house. I don't remember seeing Lodge Uchaf on the ordnance Survey maps either. Our house, Ty Isaf was Lower House. Mrs Thomas lived in Ty Uchaf. I used to but my Christmas turkey from her. The name Ty Uchaf in speech gets shortened to Tuchaf - or even Tucha. Everyone called Mrs Thomas - Mrs Thomas Tycha - all one name. and we were Pook Tysa, or Pook Tisa, or just Tysa - as the house, built in 1642, was 'permanent', and we were transitory.
 There was as well, Ty Canol - middle house. The houses were named according to their position on the hillside. These three must have been the earliest ones built.
By the way, the Mrs Thomas I used to buy my turkey from was not a young woman, and I don't remember if there were any sons (or daughters for that matter) however if there were sons, the farm might well be in the same name. Try the telephone directory.
Sincerely,
Rachel Bowen
Hope this helps.

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Travelling People / Re: Commercial Travellers/Sales Reps
« on: Thursday 03 January 08 17:15 GMT (UK)  »
Christopher,
Thankyou, I'll try them and let you know what I come up with.
Sincerely,
Rachel

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Travelling People / Commercial Travellers/Sales Reps
« on: Friday 26 October 07 13:15 BST (UK)  »
I have an ancestor who was at first a Schoolmaster in a British School in South Wales, and Later 'Book Traveller" - still in South Wales in 1871. In another census (I can't remember which one), he is recorded as Book Traveller, Castillion.
Now when I search the internet for Castillion or any variant, I come up with nothing which relates to books. All my other searches have proved equally fruitless relating to this company. I believe it would have sold School and/ or religious book, as we had so many connections with the church and education.
I have tried every possible combination of words and come up with nothing.

Does anyone have any info which can help, please?
The Ancestor's name was John William Bowen, living in Aberystruth, Monmouth in 1871, with wife Carrie (Caroline), son Richard (2), son David Jones  (2 months) and a visitor who must have been Carrie's sister, niece or cousin as she, like Carrie was born in Machen.

I'll double-post this in the Wales section.
Sincerely,
Rachel Bowen (Pook)

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Monmouthshire / Commercial Travellers/ Sales Reps
« on: Friday 26 October 07 13:13 BST (UK)  »
I have an ancestor who was at first a Schoolmaster in a British School in South Wales, and Later 'Book Traveller" - still in South Wales in 1871. In another census (I can't remember which one), he is recorded as Book Traveller, Castillion.
Now when I search the internet for Castillion or any variant, I come up with nothing which relates to books. All my other searches have proved equally fruitless relating to this company. I believe it would have sold School and/ or religious book, as we had so many connections with the church and education.
I have tried every possible combination of words and come up with nothing.

Does anyone have any info which can help, please?
The Ancestor's name was John William Bowen, living in Aberystruth, Monmouth in 1871, with wife Carrie (Caroline), son Richard (2), son David Jones  (2 months) and a visitor who must have been Carrie's sister, niece or cousin as she, like Carrie was born in Machen.

I'll double-post this in the Wales section.
Sincerely,
Rachel Bowen (Pook)

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Travelling People / Re: Stage People and the Census
« on: Wednesday 24 October 07 11:24 BST (UK)  »
Hello, I don't know anything about your 'search', but this might be useful.
My Great Grandmother kept a boarding house for stage people in Liverpool. We have photographs of some of her boarders who became friends of the family, being photographed at my father's and his twin's christening.
I know their names, Dickie and Poppy Douglas. I therefore searched censuses 1901 and before, and found them in various parts of the country.
So do a general search, not putting down any place or country.
I know that is easier with people who had more unusual names - Jones etc is too difficult.
Sincerely, Rachel Bowen

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Travelling People / Re: Tinker = Romany??
« on: Wednesday 24 October 07 11:16 BST (UK)  »
Hello, Just a note about the origin of the term Gypsy.
In French Gypsies are often called 'les Egyptiens' or female "les Egyptiennes" - example - Esmeralda in "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" .

Just because someone was of a travelling occupation, anywhere, does not indicate that people were necessarily Gypsies. Some were, some were not.
 Don't know if this helps, but it is another bit of info.
Sincerely,
Rachel Bowen

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