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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: Annie Powrie
« on: Sunday 03 November 13 01:06 GMT (UK)  »
i've spent 35+ years researching Powrie, my maiden name. I've written a book on the 18 branches and a newsletter which goes to 55 countries. Ann Lowson married in 1920 William Puller Powrie s/o Peter Flood Powrie and Elizabeth Scott Smith. they had 7 children found so far, I have 4 with families. They are part of my branch, some 7,000 members. (back to 1754) plus a DNA project. I have photos of William's grandparents Spirit and Ale business. would be happy to share, as i don't post my research online. Mary Powrie Schacht at (*)

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: joseph beat - Completed
« on: Thursday 08 November 12 01:06 GMT (UK)  »
Got it! Sarah Smith was born to james Smith and Grace Brown. Under her brother Willim Smith's tombstone at Eastern Ncropolis, Dundee, Angus, Scotland.

Angus Dundee and Broughty Ferry, Volume 4, Page 223a, Number 7 reads: William Smith 6.11.1887 76, w Eliz Galloway 10.1.1873, s Chas C d 1848, sis Sarah Smith Beat 22.11.1898 76, sis Annie 13.4.1900 92, sis Mary  5.10.1903 79, sis Grace B. S. Powrie 17.2.1905 90.  Sarah's sister Grace Brown Smith married Alexander Powrie, and

finally Powrie beats was named for his Mum's brother-in-law. alexander Powrie is buried at St. Madoes Kirkyard, St. Madoes, Perth, Scotland.

In Memory of Alex Powrie 24.12.1868 and three children died (as) infants, by wife Grace Smith
Since this stone is next to 7, there may be a connection to Grace Smith. 1796 by John Smith in Cottown and wife Margaret Whittet in Memory of daughter Barbra (this is correct spelling) 16.7.1786 4 years 4 months (west side) winged soul, rope medallion with crown over hammer (for a smith)  There was a Whittet and Powrie somewhere.....in my memory

Mary in Oregon

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Angus (Forfarshire) / Re: joseph beat - Completed
« on: Thursday 08 November 12 00:21 GMT (UK)  »
I went up both lines, went from beats to Beat.

Sarah Smith Beat died in Dundee Gros ref. 1898 BEAT SARAH SMITH F 76 ST ANDREW (DUNDEE) DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/04 1114  I downloaded both hers and Joseph Beat 1900 BEAT JOSEPH M 83 ST ANDREW (DUNDEE) DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/04 0628 if anyone wants them, no connection to the Powrie surname, but it is a placename from Dundee area. There are two castles, south powrie and north pourie, which may be near to one of the them, worked on the estate of one.

joseph's siblings:
Alexander Burns Beat <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB8M-8J3>
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:   31 Jul 1827      
christening:   05 Aug 1827   DUNDEE,​ANGUS,​SCOTLAND   

parents:   Andrew Beat,​ Helen Grubb   

      
David Beat <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBZ1-7S9>
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:   20 Jan 1830      
christening:   31 Jan 1830   DUNDEE,​ANGUS,​SCOTLAND   



Elizabeth Beats <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYP5-YQ1>
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:   10 Dec 1857   DUNDEE,​ANGUS,​SCOTLAND   

parents:   Joseph Beats,​ Sarah Smith   

      
Powrie Beats <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY16-QFZ>
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:   27 Aug 1862   DUNDEE,​ANGUS,​SCOTLAND   

parents:   Joseph Beats,​ Sarah Smith
parents:   Andrew Beat,​ Helen Grub   

      
Joseph Beat <https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB8M-CNY>
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:   23 Nov 1822      
christening:   01 Dec 1822   DUNDEE,​ANGUS,​SCOTLAND   

parents:   Andw. Beat,​ Helen Grubb

If I were in country I could check guild records, rental records etc. but I will search the Angus Monument inscription books I have at home.  Mary Powrie schacht, oregon registered one name study researcher for Powrie surname.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: David Mitchell Tomlinson
« on: Wednesday 07 November 12 21:35 GMT (UK)  »
tomlinson, david Mitchell of Dunedin, New Zealand, major in H.M. army died 13 May 1916 in France Probate Dunedin to Thomas Sherwood Tomlinson Effecrs L1469s 11d in United Kingdom Sealed London 9 May. His brother was the benificiary.

bit more on will, no paybook will that I can find. Found a couple booklets on the regiment. He recieved (his family) the victory and 1915 star medals, and the dead man's penny. I checked some places who buy medals, as a couple generations on, medals laying in a jewelry box do get sold. His will have his full name stamped on the edge, so they can be attributed to him forever.

I've found Scottish medals and dead man's pennies in Australia, thanks to observant kin, and restored them to family. If you know where they are, I will stop looking. Some families donate medals and other items to the regimental museum. Royal Scots have a beautiful museum at Balhousie castle in Perth. They can't take on research, but I wrote to ask about regimental photos and books.

Mary

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: David Mitchell Tomlinson
« on: Wednesday 07 November 12 12:22 GMT (UK)  »
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=tomlinson&GSiman=1&GScid=1996142&GRid=56166962&  I didn't understand that David fell in Pas-de-Calais, France not NZ. but I have that straight now.

I requested a photo of his grave, which you may have already. Cimetière communal de Béthune is the french name for the cemetery. I have 5 Powrie men buried in France.

there are some nice images of men in that unit, so if you don't have one of David, you can see the uniform. I collect regimental badges for each Powrie lost. Blackwatch is the most frequent/common. It makes me feel closer to "my lads" as I research. My four boys are  22-38 so I understand a mother's worry.

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: David Mitchell Tomlinson
« on: Wednesday 07 November 12 11:22 GMT (UK)  »
http://www.1914-1918.net/royalscots.htm  nice booklet available

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 <http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1543&enc=1>
about David Mitchell Tomlinson
Name:   David Mitchell Tomlinson   
Death Date:   13 May 1916   
Rank:   Major (T)   
Regiment:   Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment)   
Battalion:   13th Battalion   
Type of Casualty:   Died of wounds


13th battalion Formed at Edinburgh, September
1914, as part of K2. Moved to Aldershot.
September 1914 : attached to 45th
Brigade, 15th (Scottish) Division.
Went to billets in Bramshott November
1914, then Basingstoke February 1915 and on to Chisledon in March.
Landed in France July 1915.

lots of references to the unit and battalions online.

Anyone with a loved one on the CGCW can order a memorial or grave photo for around 5 pounds, all goes to their mission to maintain the graveswordwide. Do you know who has his medals and "dead man's penny"?

HOPE this helps,

Mary in Oregon (powrie hstorian)

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: David Mitchell Tomlinson
« on: Wednesday 07 November 12 10:38 GMT (UK)  »
Scope and content Major David Mitchell TOMLINSON.
The Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment). 
Covering dates 1914-1919
Held by The National Archives, Kew 
 
Former reference (Department) 57909
Legal status Public Record(s)
Language English

Found what I need at the PRO in Kew, England to find his service record. they were burned during the blitz of WWI, and filmed as burned records. (filming one page, then the next, often destroying each top page to reveil those beneath. I will ask the expert, Richard Moles, if he can find it and quote a cost. (usually around 40-80 pounds depending on what is desired). Begin date, ship transports to each theatre, verifying peronnel numbers. All Scottish regiments (except militia) after 1763 are housed at the British archives, refered to as the Public Records Office. Militia and any paybook wills (written by the soldiers) are at the National archive of scotland.

Mary

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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: David Mitchell Tomlinson
« on: Tuesday 06 November 12 04:24 GMT (UK)  »
Scots have a long proud history of being warriars. They hold to duty, self and national pride!

William Fisher Tomlinson reg no. 1927/5856 married Ethel Maud Wolf on 12 Aug 1927.


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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: David Mitchell Tomlinson
« on: Tuesday 06 November 12 04:09 GMT (UK)  »
more from the wonderful kiwis on the rootsweb.

2 people by the name of Charles Edward Tomlinson married in 1915, so it’s impossible from that information to say which is yours. Checked both deaths. One died in 1950 aged 68Y, making him born 1882. One died in 1964 aged 79Y, so born in 1885. Very little in it. The one in 1964 died in Nelson, and the one in 1950 died in Auckland. You have other names in Nelson so I suspect the second guy just shades it, but it really is a little too close to call. The first guy, who died in 1950, is very accurate with his age. We know he was born in 1882.

 

Checked the births and sure enough, one born in 1882 and one in 1885. 1882 is yours.

 

So, Charles Edward Tomlinson, reg no. 1950/30973, died 9 Dec 1950. Cremated at Waikumete Cemetery, Auckland. Probate granted in Auckland Court on 15 Dec 1950.

 

Discovered that Marjorie Joyce Tomlinson was cremated in Auckland, whereas Ivy Coral Tomlinson was buried in Nelson. So with some certainty I think that the marriage was:

 

Charles Edward Tomlinson married Marjorie Joyce Whittan, reg no. 1915/1410, on 16 Jun 1915.

 

Marjorie died on 23 Apr 1959 aged 73Y. Cremated at Purewa Cemetary on 25 Apr 1959. Probate granted on 22 May 1959 in Auckland Court.


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