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Leicestershire / Re: Which Thomas Burley and Elizabeth??? Countesthorpe
« on: Tuesday 17 June 25 22:08 BST (UK)  »
These are the children I have identified as being born to Thomas Burley and "Elizabeth" but it is  unclear which belong to Burley/Smeeton and whether some are Burley/Morton.

Joseph (unclear middle name) Burley Bap June 1812
Mary Burley Bap June 1813
James Burley Bap Nov 1813
Henry Burley Bap Oct 1815
Mary Burley Bap Feb 1818
Josiah Burley Bap Dec 1820 Died May 1821
David Smeeton Burley Bap Sept 1822
Elizabeth Burley Bap March 1825
Ann Burley Bap 1828
Thomas Burley Bap April 1832
Josh Burley Bap July 1837

My thoughts at present...

Burley/ Smeeton Children

Joseph 1812 - Morton marriage wasn't until 1813, baptised as Burley nothing to suggest illegitimate.
James Burley Bap Nov 1813 - Assuming his siblings Thomas and Ann on 1851 census are the same Thomas and Ann on the 1841 with sibling David Smeeton Burley.
David Smeeton Burley Bap Sept 1822 - Middle name links to Smeeton Couple
Elizabeth Burley Bap March 1825 - On 1841 census with David Smeeton Burley
Ann Burley Bap 1828 - On 1841 census with David Smeeton Burley
Thomas Burley Bap April 1832 - On 1841 census with David Smeeton Burley
Josh Burley Bap July 1837 - Wondering if this is a transcription error and this is Joseph from the 1841 census.

I am unclear on the others. ???

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Leicestershire / Re: Which Thomas Burley and Elizabeth??? Countesthorpe
« on: Tuesday 17 June 25 21:41 BST (UK)  »
Brilliant Thank you.

I am assuming the David on the census is David Smeeton Burley. So it appears the 2 census entries are for the Burley/ Smeeton couple.

I can't find the other Burley/Morton family in Countesthorpe  on the census, can you?

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Leicestershire / Which Thomas Burley and Elizabeth??? Countesthorpe
« on: Tuesday 17 June 25 13:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

I am in a bit of a muddle and wondered if anyone could help me figure this out.

My ancestor Mary Burley was baptised in Countesthorpe, Leicestershire in 1818. The baptism lists her parents as Thomas Burley FWK and Elizabeth.

My issue is that there are two set of Thomas Burley and Elizabeth in Countesthorpe in the same period.

Thomas Burley (Widower) marrying Elizabeth Smeeton March 1812 in Countesthorpe.

Thomas Burley (Batchelor) marrying Elizabeth Morton (Horton/Norton?) March 1813 in Countesthorpe.

There are a string of Burley children in the parish records for Countesthorpe 1813-1828 born to Thomas Burley and Elizabeth - no maiden name given.

One child in particular is David Smeeton Burley so I think it is safe to assume he belongs to the Burley/Smeeton pairing. But what about the others? And most importantly my Mary?

I am struggling to track either family group in the census. I am not sure who Thomas Burley (Widower) was married to originally.

Can anyone help me untangle this?

Many Thanks

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Scotland / Re: Help finding the parents of Margaret Grieve
« on: Tuesday 22 October 24 14:19 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for providing your thoughts they have been helpful.  :)

John Delver Wilson was born 1797, London his parents were Joseph Wilson and Jane.

This gives support to them following naming convention . Even though I haven't been able to find the birth registration I believe Joseph Wilson is John and Margaret's first son as he was born in Edinburgh then the subsequent children are born in London. I believe that James Grieve Wilson is their second son.

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Scotland / Help finding the parents of Margaret Grieve
« on: Monday 21 October 24 12:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi All,

I am struggling to progress my Scottish Grieve line.

John Delver Wilson married Margaret Grieve in Edinburgh - 22/12/1828 the marriage listing does not give the details of the parents. It also doesn't give their ages.

I tracked the family on the census to London. The children are:
Joseph Wilson B c1829-1833 based on military record in Edinburgh. I can't find his birth record, but I have his child's Gibraltar baptism record which lists the name of her grandparents (Joseph's parents )  as John Delver Wilson and Margaret Grieve and confirms his place of birth as Scotland, the military record states Edinburgh.

James Grieve Wilson b1832 St James, Westminster

John Delver Wilson b1836 St James, Westminster

Margaret Sophia b1836 St James, Westminster

Isabella Jane Delver Wilson b 1840 - d1841 St James, Westminster

William John Delver Wilson b1843 - d1843 St James, Westminster

Following them on the census I have found:

1841 Living together in St James, Westminster - Margaret born approx. 1811 in Scotland
1851 Living together in St James, Westminster - Margaret born approx. 1806 in Scotland
1852 John Delver Wilson dies.
1861 Can't find Margaret
1871 Can't find Margaret
1881 Potentially found her living with daughter Margaret Sophia Wilson, in St Giles In the Fields, London b approx. 1804 Paisley, Scotland.

Not knowing Margaret's parents name, having an approx. birth range from 1804-1811 and knowing she was in Edinburgh in 1828 and may have been born in Paisley is leaving me feeling a bit stumped on how to find her birth and progress my tree.

Can anyone help track down the missing census to hopefully firm up date or place of birth or suggest other ways to try to confirm her parents?

Many Thanks

 :)




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Armed Forces / Re: Gilliver - Napoleonic Wars
« on: Friday 10 May 24 15:13 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much for the information  :)

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Armed Forces / Gilliver - Napoleonic Wars
« on: Friday 10 May 24 13:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,

FamilySearch has thrown up a record that suggest my husbands ancestor died in the Napoleonic Wars.

Name   Robert Gilliver
Birthplace   Oversyl
Death Date   1813
Military Rank   Soldier
Event Type   Military Service
Event Place   France
Series Number   ADM 103/632
Affiliate Publication Title   Register of Deaths for British POWs 1794-1815
Affiliate Name   The National Archives
Prison Name   Cambrai
Ship Name   Coldstream Guards
War   Napoleonic Wars

Our Robert Gilliver was born c1779 in Overseal/Netherseal Derbyshire. In have found on ancestry a muster roll showing a Robert Gilliver joined in 1797 and was taken prisoner in 1812 so the putting together the dates, ages, places it look like it could be the same person.

I don't have a Find My Past subscription to view this record. Is there a way to pay as you go to read this record? Can anybody tell me what level of detail the record is likely to contain? I don't want to waste limited resources if it doesn't tell me any more than the index information.

Many Thanks,

Sarah

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Northumberland / Re: Newburn Parish records 1790s
« on: Friday 10 May 24 13:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for all the replies, lots to get stuck into. I wasn't aware of the Durham online records so that is a great resource. Family History takes you all over the place!

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Northumberland / Newburn Parish records 1790s
« on: Monday 06 May 24 14:09 BST (UK)  »
Good Afternoon

I have found my husband's 4 x great grandmother's baptism on Free Reg.

Name: Jane Chapman
Baptism: 29 Sep 1793 St Michael and All Angels, Newburn, Northumberland

Father: John Chapman
Mother: Jane

On the baptism record it also states the abode as "Bells Close"

When searching to see whether Jane Chapman had any siblings in the baptism registers I couldn't find any for John Chapman and Jane but I found several children baptised in the same time period to a George Chapman and a Jane (Mackclay) these records all state the abode as "Bells Close." It states they were from Durham originally and I can find their marriage there.

As for John Chapman and Jane there are a couple of potential matches but nothing that I have a paper trail for yet.

Jane WRIGHT
John CHAPMAN   Marriage   23 Nov 1788   Durham   Auckland St Andrew : St Andrew : Bishop's Transcript

Jane HEWSON
John CHAPMAN   Marriage   01 Jun 1783   Northumberland   Berwick-Upon-Tweed : Holy Trinity : Other Transcript

Does anyone have a way to view the original record to see if this is a transcription error and my Jane's father is actually George and not John, or whether there were 2 Chapman families with mothers called Jane in Bells Close at this time.

Many Thanks,

 :)


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