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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Saturday 16 February 13 18:16 GMT (UK)  »
I have a similar situation concerning Ann Chapman (by the way, I found her full name as wife of Walter Mead when he died at Devises in 1868 aged 41, all that on... Rootschat! in a topic about "Mead family" dated 31 March 2011): from censuses and West Lavington baptisms, she appears to be Ann, baptized  06 Apr 1828, daughter of William Chapman & Mary ... Ten children of that couple are baptized at the same place from 1818 to 1839. But not family name for Mary! And the Wiltshire BMD doesn't help either.

M


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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Saturday 16 February 13 17:42 GMT (UK)  »
Though I wished for the contrary, I was expecting such replies to my queries. Given that I am new to both Rootschat and research in England, I really did not expect to find such difficulties at obtaining vital information from records... I realize even more now how privileged I am of being born in Quebec (Canada), where registers access is unrestricted for the last hundred years, and where very complete abstracts are available in major public labraries up to the 1980s.

That being said, I have been going thru the Wiltshire BMD indexes and found nothing more than what I knew. Luckily, as mentioned earlier in this topic, baptisms of eight children of Isaac Mead & Ann ... were found at Tilshead, from Family Search, between 1822 and 1837: that is, not included in the Wiltshire BMD! So, how do I proceed from there? how do I find Ann's family name if not mentioned in the registers?

Is this the kind of query that I should rather put on a "one name studies" board?


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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Friday 15 February 13 21:26 GMT (UK)  »
Within the hour succeding Polarbear's reply, I found the marriage of Samuel Meade and Sarah Fennel at Montreal (Presbyterian Church of St Mark) in 1875: the groom's parents are those I had guessed from the start, namely Walter Meade & Anne Chapman.

I was not as succesful with their daughter Rhoda: since she was probably born in Montreal, and given that her father still appears in the Lovell's Directory of Montreal for 1878-1879, I have spent the following days looking through all the non catholic church registers of Montreal I had access to, without finding her.

Meanwhile, I was hoping that someone would have had time to check the possible birth record of Samuel at Amesbury, 1st quarter of 1853. It would still be interesting but not any more "necessary".

I suppose tha the following step is to lookup for the parents of Walter Meade and Ann Chapman in the 4th quarter 1850 Devizes records? Internet has suggestions about them, but a record is better proof!

Thank you to all of you who helped to get thus far.



 

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Saturday 09 February 13 17:11 GMT (UK)  »
Polarbear,


I was so surprised to see your reply on waking up this morning, that immediately started digging more about the Meade & Fennell... and just realize now that I should at least have thanked you for that breakthrough! I do now and will hopefully return with some new material to share, as soon as possible.


M

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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Friday 08 February 13 22:52 GMT (UK)  »
I said I agreed with Polarbear for the passenger lists because the National Archives site appeared ambigous.

But I have just listed the ships for 1870 and there are 82: for all of them, Quebec is inscribed as port of arrival; in addition to Quebec (in combination with Quebec!), Gaspe and St.Johns appear once, and Montreal 7 times. For these nine "ambiguities", i looked at original pages and picked up some names that I then entered into the "search by name" function and they all pointed to the ship and date and port I had taken them from. Conclusion: the names have been indexed for the period concerned for all subsisting lists. That doesn't mean there are no transcription errors...

I am now quite anxious to see your information "a propos" of Montreal.


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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Friday 08 February 13 22:12 GMT (UK)  »
I agree with you concerning the passenger lists.

On the other hand, it is the first time I hear (rather see!) that Walter would be born in Montreal! Except for the 1901 census which says he is born in urban Quebec (province I assume), he is most regularly said born in Ontario.

A reference concerninc Montreal would then be welcome!


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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Friday 08 February 13 20:32 GMT (UK)  »
Hello...


I searched late last night and again today in the Quebec Passenger Lists Index 1865-1900 (from Library and Archives Canada site) for a Samuel Mead(e): none!

For a Mead(e) arriving in 1870 (year declared in the 1901 census):
- William, aged 58
- Matthew, on the "Scandinavian", no age given in the index; looking at the original image, the photo is very shady so I even have difficulty to read both first name and surname; age unreadable; but his trade being "laborer" and no other of his name on the boat, that could be him but I am quite unsure!

In 1871: three, aged 27, 20 and 12

In 1869: fifteen: two loners(!), aged 19 and 25;
three 3-persons families (father & mother & child of young age);
and another family about which I found a topic started on Rootschat on 26.03.2005 and left pending; for which reason I have posted my information there!

So, I am puzzled again: if there is no trace of Samuel Meade migrating to Canada around 1870, perhaps he migrated to the USA at some time (though quite young) and from there to Canada?!


Progressing takes time!


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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: ST PANCRAS HELP NEEDED PLEASE
« on: Friday 08 February 13 20:28 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,


While searching (in another topic) for a Samuel Meade who migrated from England to Ontario (Canada) in 1870, I found in the Quebec Passenger Lists Index 1865-1900 (from Library and Archives Canada site), the arrival at Quebec (Quebec, Canada), 06 May 1869, on the "Crocodile", the family of Cornelius Mead (42), Elizabeth (48), William (17) and Harriett (14).

They clearly match the family you are looking for.

A quick search on Family Search provided the marriage of a Harriet Mead, 23 (daughter of Cornelius M. & Elizabeth Maidment) with a Daniel Sullivan, on 30 Jan 1879 at Hamilton (Ontario). Indicating that the family was still in Canada by then.

I hope that this will be of some help, after all these years without reply...



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Wiltshire Lookup Requests / Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Friday 08 February 13 18:01 GMT (UK)  »
Where do you find the time to do all those searches, Rosie?

You are a good tracker, exactly on the right family (I mean that of a Samuel son of Walter & Ann). From the late dates at which you find them still in England, I'd be surprised to discover any of the other children migrated in Canada or the USA.

Walter Mead, the father, born c1827, is very probably a member of Isaac Mead & Ann ..., from Tilshead and parents of (from Family Search):
Emily (b 21.07.1822)
Rhode (b 20.02.1825)
Walter (b 18.03.1827)
Samuel (b 22.02.1829)
Sarah Ann (b 06.02.1831)
Martha (b 07.08.1833)
Mary (b 07.09.1835)
Hannah (b 12.11.1837, d 24.05.1846)
all in the Tilshead registers.

You'll surely note that similar names among the above children of Isaac and those of his son Walter...

Pleased to hear from you!

M

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