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The Common Room / Re: Help needed accessing free Fold3 records
« on: Sunday 09 November 25 11:52 GMT (UK) »
Couldn't see no small print, certainly not in the email or on the page I was directed to. What a shame.
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The Common Room / Help needed accessing free Fold3 records
« on: Saturday 08 November 25 23:15 GMT (UK) »
As I previously tried using Fold3 as a free trial I got a message today saying that access to WWI and WWII records was free until 16 Nov. However after logging in and searching I found a WWII medal record and I was unable to see it. Has anyone got any advice on how to see the records or is it a con to get you to sign up?
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The Common Room / Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« on: Friday 24 October 25 19:05 BST (UK) »
Well done for finding that cutting. That is Denner's younger brother Montague, he survived the accident, got married in 1910 and lived until 1963.
I looked at the other suggestions and don't think they can be Denner Gough under a new name as the other family members and ages don't match up.
So it remains a mystery, but an intruiging one.
I looked at the other suggestions and don't think they can be Denner Gough under a new name as the other family members and ages don't match up.
So it remains a mystery, but an intruiging one.
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The Common Room / Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« on: Monday 20 October 25 16:13 BST (UK) »
Yes it was 53 Holloway Road, it's now a probation service office! the family home was fuuther north of the Seven Sisters Road.
Denner's mother's name was Wisby but thanks anyway.
He does just seem to vanish into thin air. If the info on the 1911 census is right and the father says that one of his sons is dead then Denner Gough must have died by 1911 but why is there no record of the death? He might have changed his name and he could have left London but where to? So it might never be possible to trace him.
What's interesting about the family is that when Denner's grandmother Mary Rebecca Wisby died in 1879 its not clear what happened to the money she left (she owned four houses and a shoemaking business) and her son-in-law John Gough was one of the executors (and he bought a tobacconist the following year!). Mary's husband James Wisby who died in 1878 also used the name James Howard in his business and so for years after he and his wife died the whole family added Howard to their surname as Howard Wisby or Wisby Howard or just changed it to Howard, maybe in the vague hope that they might inherit some of the money if they did but no one seemed to benefit from it except John Gough and Caroline.
It's equally odd that his son should disappear with no trace bearing in mind his father worked in the legal profession
Denner's mother's name was Wisby but thanks anyway.
He does just seem to vanish into thin air. If the info on the 1911 census is right and the father says that one of his sons is dead then Denner Gough must have died by 1911 but why is there no record of the death? He might have changed his name and he could have left London but where to? So it might never be possible to trace him.
What's interesting about the family is that when Denner's grandmother Mary Rebecca Wisby died in 1879 its not clear what happened to the money she left (she owned four houses and a shoemaking business) and her son-in-law John Gough was one of the executors (and he bought a tobacconist the following year!). Mary's husband James Wisby who died in 1878 also used the name James Howard in his business and so for years after he and his wife died the whole family added Howard to their surname as Howard Wisby or Wisby Howard or just changed it to Howard, maybe in the vague hope that they might inherit some of the money if they did but no one seemed to benefit from it except John Gough and Caroline.
It's equally odd that his son should disappear with no trace bearing in mind his father worked in the legal profession
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The Common Room / Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« on: Monday 20 October 25 15:44 BST (UK) »
I bit the bullet and bought the death certificate of the John Gough who died in 1898 but it isn't the right person. So the person in the old bailey case is probably someone else. Good detective work though, thanks for the suggestions.
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The Common Room / Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« on: Sunday 19 October 25 19:17 BST (UK) »
PatLac - that cutting looks good, thank you, and the 1898 death of John Gough a good possibility. He may have changed his name to John like his father and it woud fit in with why he's not on the 1901 census.
I discovered that his father John Gough's brother died when he was just 15, so it's possible that there was some hereditry condition in the family.
I discovered that his father John Gough's brother died when he was just 15, so it's possible that there was some hereditry condition in the family.
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The Common Room / Re: Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« on: Sunday 19 October 25 13:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks to all of you.
mckha489 - I hadn't noticed that, Denner must be the one who died although I couldn't find a death record anywhere so he must have changed his name. I need to dig a bit more.
Milliepede - I did look in the newspapers for Denner/Dennie/Den Gough and could find anything but of course he might be there under another name.
JenB - yes John and Caroline ran a tobacconists shop, or more likely she did and he was still a solicitor's clerk.
mckha489 - I hadn't noticed that, Denner must be the one who died although I couldn't find a death record anywhere so he must have changed his name. I need to dig a bit more.
Milliepede - I did look in the newspapers for Denner/Dennie/Den Gough and could find anything but of course he might be there under another name.
JenB - yes John and Caroline ran a tobacconists shop, or more likely she did and he was still a solicitor's clerk.
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The Common Room / Help needed tracing somene who disappears from the records
« on: Saturday 18 October 25 22:54 BST (UK) »
I was looking into the family of my great-grandmother's cousin Caroline Wisby (b1851). She married John George Gough who was a solicitor. They had four children, all sons, three of them I can trace what happened but one who had the unusual name of Denner Strutt Gough, born 1874 in London, disappears after the 1891 census.
I have tried looking for a marriage, a death or an emigrtion but can find no trace of him. I suppose as he had such an unusual name (he was named after a 17th century ancestor called Sir Denner Strutt) he may have changed it to something a little less unusual, but how can I find out?
Any help will be welcome.
I have tried looking for a marriage, a death or an emigrtion but can find no trace of him. I suppose as he had such an unusual name (he was named after a 17th century ancestor called Sir Denner Strutt) he may have changed it to something a little less unusual, but how can I find out?
Any help will be welcome.
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The Common Room / Re: Tracing a photographer called Little Tich
« on: Thursday 03 July 25 22:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your help. I wish I'd asked my nan more questions about the photos.