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World War One / Re: ww1 despatch riders
« on: Monday 11 September 17 15:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi Hannah

You can reach me and Martin (we are brothers as well as co-authors) on twowheelstowar@gmail.com.

When we started the research we had a vision that the material could lead to a television treatment as well as the book that we produced.

You won't be surprised to learn that we think there are many angles which the television production company might want to explore!

best wishes
Nick

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World War One / Re: ww1 despatch riders
« on: Sunday 10 September 17 18:05 BST (UK)  »
I'm sure you'll enjoy the book - there are lots of anecdotes, etc

What got you started on the topic? Do you have any connections with despatch riders? or motorcycling?


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World War One / Re: ww1 despatch riders
« on: Saturday 09 September 17 22:35 BST (UK)  »
Dear Hannah
I'm still very active in my research - my brother and I published Two Wheels to War (Helion Press) earlier this year. It is an expanded edition of WHL Watson's Adventure of a Despatch Rider - it is illustrated with photographs taken by Watson's colleagues and includes biographies of the 5th Signals despatch riders and other men mentioned in the book. It also includes extensive extracts from letters and diaries written by the 5th Signals men and chapters on the men and their machines. Search for the book on Amazon or Bookfinder if you want to find more.

If you post what you are looking for at the archives, I'd be happy to help and advise on what to look for.


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I would add one minor point - he is photographed with the despatch rider's blue and white brassard on his arm. So far as I know this was only worn by despatch riders while serving in France - beginning in 1914 the French required BEF despatch riders, who would have been riding independently of the troops to which they were attached, to identify themselves as Allied soldiers by wearing this brassard. In other words, the photograph proves that he landed in France.
By the way, 6 months delay between attestation and reaching France doesn't seem hasty - in August 1914 some of the first despatch riders landed in France only a week or so after they were attested.

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World War One / Re: ww1 despatch riders
« on: Wednesday 12 March 14 16:08 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again
I stumbled across more information about your photograph this morning - a stereoscopic version of the picture (showing the upper storeys) is now on UK ebay at no 231178222343
 
I made some further enquiries and discovered that the original photograph is one of 167 photographs taken by Dr Birdwood, an official photographer, to be found in the India Office Library at the British Library in St Pancras

this picture is Photo 21/(95) captioned "Motor-lorries and cycles of the Indian Army Corps' Signallers packed in the main square at Merville".

Wikipedia tells us that Merville was completely destroyed but a glance at Streetview shows that there is still a large central square, and I imagine this is where the picture was taken

best wishes!

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World War One / Re: Despatch Riders WW1
« on: Wednesday 11 December 13 22:29 GMT (UK)  »
I've been researching the 1914 Royal Engineers motorcycle despatch riders for some time now, in particular the members of 5th Signals Company to which Willie Watson (who wrote Adventures of a Despatch Rider) belonged.

All the despatch riders were volunteers who joined the Army on the outbreak of war. They were anxious to get to France because the rumour was that the war would be all over by Christmas. But they were not 'casuals' - all of them were properly recruited, promoted to Corporal, and were fully part of the military - a fact which humbled Watson and others who, as "amateurs" had great respect for the professional soldiers they served with. Many of them had relevant training (Officer Training Corps, etc) and were commissioned into other units within weeks of joining up.

I'm sure that your uncle will have a Medal Card (WO 372) and possibly, if he became an officer, a service record (WO 339) - try searching in The National Archives Discovery catalogue using these references. If in difficulty I'd be happy to look him up on Ancestry for you, just need his full name and date of birth.


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World War One / Re: ww1 despatch riders
« on: Tuesday 13 August 13 11:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi there
 
I had a very successful visit to TNA - looked at more than a dozen war diaries of Signals units and nearly 100 personal files of despatch riders. There's some fascinating information there, I'm still in the process of entering all the data into my database so I can work out what it all means!

The relevant diaries for the purpose of identifying the Indian Army unit in the photograph were WO 95/3919 Lahore Division Signal Company and WO 95/393 Meerut Division Signal Company. As I frequently found elsewhere, the recording by officers of similar units varied tremendously - some officers wrote long and detailed entries while others wrote the bare minimum.

The Lahore Division landed at Marseilles on 30th September 1914 and went by train to Toulouse, and thence by train to Argenton and Orleans where they were in camp from 2nd to 16th October. On 17th and 18th October they went by train to Boulogne, then Calais and St Omer. The stopping point for 17th and 18th October was written as BLENDECOUVES but I think must have been BLENDECQUES, which is a town near St Omer.

Over the following days they went by road to the Front through the following towns:
HALLINES; LYNDES; BAILLEUIL; ESTAIRES; LOCON; LEVANTIE; LE TOURET

In my opinion the photograph was probably taken in one of those destinations. I've looked at Blendecques and Estaires on Google StreetView and the architecture is very reminiscent of the photograph.

If the town survives, I think we have a good chance of identifying it - I expect the names of the shops will certainly have changed but it is quite distinctive with two four bay buildings looking onto a square with room for the Signals company and the photographer on the opposite side of the square. Have a look for yourself!

regards
Nick

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World War One / Re: ww1 despatch riders
« on: Wednesday 10 July 13 21:10 BST (UK)  »
Hi Simon

thanks for the message, note all you say, and add that I've now rebooked my visit to TNA for end of July/beginning of August.

cheers
Nick

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World War One / Re: ww1 despatch riders
« on: Sunday 12 May 13 21:41 BST (UK)  »
Hi Simon, I'm very I didn't make it to TNA - ill-health, I'm afraid. Will probably go in June, it's very frustrating because I had a lorra lorra documents I was going to look at!! Nick

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