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Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Belcher’s of Bradford but of Irish descent.
« on: Saturday 25 March 23 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Just come across your post ref Irish Belchers in Bradford.
Your John Belcher b1834 Louth - I presume you mean Co Louth married Mary Gargin (Geohagen).
My research shows that John was born Nenagh Co Tipperary.
In the 1861 Census this John appears as Belshaw (BMD confirms children born as Belcher) "living on pension". I have found evidence that he was wounded in the Crimea and it is this record that shows him being born Nenagh.
I claim that his father was John Belcher b ca1801 Ireland who features in the Censuses of Bradford 1861/1871 first with his daughter Catherine Belcher (who later marries and emigrates to Mass US as Catherine Evans) and then as father-in-law with Esther Carroll nee Belcher my Great-Grandmother, husband Daniel Carroll (Esther transcribed as Bulger in 1851 Census along with sister Rachel - who very late in life emigrates to Mass US as Rachel Seymour). All these people living in close proximity including John Belcher Sr's brother - Francis. John Sr also has another son William (Belsher) b1825 Ireland died Canada 1908 and whose gravestone is marked as being the first Belsher to emigrate.
John Belcher Sr appears in the Tithe Applopments in Townland of Clash (just east of Nenagh) Co Tipperary. William Belcher is also here that I presume is his father. Under the naming pattern first born son named after the father's father - William. Second born son named after the father - John. Following the naming pattern William's wife would be Rachel. There is a Rachel Belcher along with children of Francis Belcher being baptised C of I in the nearby Parish of Aghnameadle 1839. It quotes Rachel as being born in 1769 (age 60) so possibly a religious conversion.
In the Griffiths Valuations he appears in the Townland of Brownstown in the Kings County panhandle.
There are several Petty Courts entries for him at Nenagh both in the 1830s and 1860 the latter immediately prior to his emergence in Bradford as a widower.
John Belcher Sr was married to Ann(e) Colbert - plenty of Colberts in the Cloughjordan/Modreeny area of Tipp. I have no record of marriage nor her death but a death cert in US of Catherine Belcher Evans gives mother as Ann Colbert.
I have Gurney in my tree.
DNA links me to Colberts Ottawa area Canada.
DNA links me the Belchers,(Belshers) also in Ottawa area Canada.
How do these facts hold with you?
Just come across your post ref Irish Belchers in Bradford.
Your John Belcher b1834 Louth - I presume you mean Co Louth married Mary Gargin (Geohagen).
My research shows that John was born Nenagh Co Tipperary.
In the 1861 Census this John appears as Belshaw (BMD confirms children born as Belcher) "living on pension". I have found evidence that he was wounded in the Crimea and it is this record that shows him being born Nenagh.
I claim that his father was John Belcher b ca1801 Ireland who features in the Censuses of Bradford 1861/1871 first with his daughter Catherine Belcher (who later marries and emigrates to Mass US as Catherine Evans) and then as father-in-law with Esther Carroll nee Belcher my Great-Grandmother, husband Daniel Carroll (Esther transcribed as Bulger in 1851 Census along with sister Rachel - who very late in life emigrates to Mass US as Rachel Seymour). All these people living in close proximity including John Belcher Sr's brother - Francis. John Sr also has another son William (Belsher) b1825 Ireland died Canada 1908 and whose gravestone is marked as being the first Belsher to emigrate.
John Belcher Sr appears in the Tithe Applopments in Townland of Clash (just east of Nenagh) Co Tipperary. William Belcher is also here that I presume is his father. Under the naming pattern first born son named after the father's father - William. Second born son named after the father - John. Following the naming pattern William's wife would be Rachel. There is a Rachel Belcher along with children of Francis Belcher being baptised C of I in the nearby Parish of Aghnameadle 1839. It quotes Rachel as being born in 1769 (age 60) so possibly a religious conversion.
In the Griffiths Valuations he appears in the Townland of Brownstown in the Kings County panhandle.
There are several Petty Courts entries for him at Nenagh both in the 1830s and 1860 the latter immediately prior to his emergence in Bradford as a widower.
John Belcher Sr was married to Ann(e) Colbert - plenty of Colberts in the Cloughjordan/Modreeny area of Tipp. I have no record of marriage nor her death but a death cert in US of Catherine Belcher Evans gives mother as Ann Colbert.
I have Gurney in my tree.
DNA links me to Colberts Ottawa area Canada.
DNA links me the Belchers,(Belshers) also in Ottawa area Canada.
How do these facts hold with you?
