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Other Countries / Re: From Belgium to Argentina
« on: Friday 01 August 14 22:14 BST (UK)  »
I am looking for a birth certificate for Mathilde Rosa Laino November 23, 1891 born in Buenos Aires, Argentina.  Maybe provence of Balcarce.

thanks.

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Europe / Re: TOSI (Sartirana,Pavia)
« on: Thursday 01 November 12 13:43 GMT (UK)  »
I have some films that I requested through FamilySearch.  Just have not had time yet to sift through them.  I can;t even remember what I requested!!!  They were from Sartirana I believe.  Time frame that matches the date of birth.  When I ordered them it was with the intention of trying to find my greatgrandmothers birth certificate.  The center here is only open on Wed and Saturdays.

I briefly did the familysearch to try and find their names, but nothing came up as an exact hit.  I have posted things on Italiangeneology.com before and had great success with their pros finding info.  I might try this information and see what they can come up with.


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Europe / Re: TOSI (Sartirana,Pavia)
« on: Wednesday 31 October 12 22:13 GMT (UK)  »
Considering this is the woman i am looking for....Maria Giovanna Tosi.  Born 12/28/1873 in Sartirana, Italy. 
Are there records that will show when someone left Italy and emmigrated to another country?  I think she left and went to Buenos Aires. 

Her parents are Angelo Tosi and Maria Pasquarelli.  Is it possible there are other siblings? 

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Europe / Re: TOSI (Sartirana,Pavia)
« on: Wednesday 31 October 12 19:51 GMT (UK)  »
Also the Jeanne Tosi in the post a few back, the one that died in France.  My Jeanne Tosi Lagneau died in Kokomo, Indiana 1945.

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Europe / Re: TOSI (Sartirana,Pavia)
« on: Wednesday 31 October 12 19:50 GMT (UK)  »
I have just received in the mail a "servizio dello stato civile sartirana lomellina"....for Maria Giovanna Tosi.   Someone had given me an email address to the Comune Di Sartirana Lomellina.

I had emailed that her name was Joan Mary on her obituary and her name was listed as Jeanne on other US documents.  Also, her name was listed as Jeanne Tosi on a 1929 manifest through Ellis Island when she returned from Buenos Aires.
The only date of birth I had ever seen listed was 9/28/1873. 

So this certificate seems to be for a Mary Giovanna Tosi.  Born 12/28/1873.

All this is VERY close to the information that I asked for.  My mother could have been off on the date of birth.  September could be December.  1873 is the same.  Names are transposed, but......this person was born in the city listed on her obituary. 

Think this could be the my Great Grandmother?   It also lists  her father as Angelo Tosi and her mother as Maria Pasquarelli, which I have never known of. 

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Europe / Re: TOSI (Sartirana,Pavia)
« on: Monday 08 October 12 03:11 BST (UK)  »
I appreciate your interest.
As a side note....I believe Jeanne (my great grandmother) was born in Italy.  At some point, and I do not know the timeframe, she emigrated to Buenos Aires.  I just recently found out some incredible information recently.  My grandmother, was not her biological daughter. 
Armand Lagneau (Laino in the 1895 Argentine Census) was in Buenos Aires with his wife, son.  And that is where my grandmother was born. 
According to a US passport application for my grandmother in 1920, she listed she returned to France in 1916.  In a 1920 French marriage certificate my grandmother lists her biological mother as "absent"....which may be interpreted as "divorce"?  Possibly then her father, Armand came back with Jeanne Tosi as his wife?  Maybe he met her in France after 1916?  In 1929, Jeanne Tosi Lagneau makes a trip back to Buenos Aires from the USA with her step daughters grandson.  Must be to visit relatives? 

Chasing ghosts!!

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Europe / Re: TOSI (Sartirana,Pavia)
« on: Sunday 07 October 12 22:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you.  I have some pieces of information but I cannot be 100% sure.  I believe the date of birth is Sept 28, 1873.  The place of birth listed in her 1945 obituary says she was "born in Sartirana, province de Pavia, Italy.  ( Is there such a place or is that just a region?)

And, for her name.  I have seen listed Jeanne Tosi on a USA immigration document.  Lagneau was her married name.  Her obituary lists her name as Joan Mary.  Unfortunately I do not have a birth name.

Perhaps....Giovannia (is that italian for Jeanne or Joan? 

I just can;t seem to find anything which is 100% correct.  Any help you can give me I would appreiate.  I have requested some microfilm from Familysearch.com, which has arrived.  I believe it might have been birth records from that time frame and from maybe that region.  I just have not been able to set up a time yet to sit and peruse through it.  I am sure it will be timely.

I do know that Jeanne did come with her husband in Nov 1920 from Choisy de Rol, France to the USA.  I have Ellis Island records.  It does list her as Italian.

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Other Countries / Re: Searching for Grandmother info in Argentina
« on: Tuesday 25 September 12 14:17 BST (UK)  »
From this point, can I find out if Rosalie died in Buenos Aires?  Armand remarried and his bride was Jeanne (Giovannia) Tosi, who was born in Sartirana, province de Pavia, Italy around 1973.  She was about 10 years younger than Armand.  I have tried to search for that name in Italian records, but have no luck.  I am trying to obtain a death certificate from Kokomo, IN to see if it lists any other information that might be helpful.  Like an exact DOB.

1. That maybe explains where the name "Rose" comes into play.  Mathilde Rose, her daughter, Yolanda Rose, and my sister Sheila Rose!

2,  Could Armand have met Jeanne Tosi (who my all acounts we know of was listed as "mother to Mathilde and my mother always knew as her Grandmother,) in Argentina after Rosalie?  There is a passport application for Mathilde Lagneau Lo Bianco dated 1920 where she and her husband applied for her passport to come to the US in Aug.  Armand and Jeanne followed in Nov 1920.  and in 1929 Jeanne and her grandson, Armando Sciortino( misspelled on Ellis Island records as Sciartino) returned to Buenos Aires for a visit. 


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Other Countries / Re: Searching for Grandmother info in Argentina
« on: Tuesday 25 September 12 14:01 BST (UK)  »
. I believe that is them!!  Armand was from Belgium, his first wife was Rosalie and there was a son Armand.  You have found the Holy Grail!  As a novice I have been trying to find them under their correctly spelled name. 

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