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I do hope that you are not falling into the familiar trap of taking an established tree and just bolting your stuff onto it.  I am UK and an ancestor of mine is Tandy.  Tandy is a very popular name in the UK.  All I know is that "my" Thomas Tandy was baptised 15 September 1824 in Radford Semele, Warwickshire, England.  He had siblings Mary, William and Hannah and his parents are William Tandy 1795-1854 and Elizabeth Wilson 1796-1854.  It makes life so easy to say Oh That's Good - but do you have anything to add - a date of birth would do - probably nothing else would distinguish this one from lots and lots of other Tandy's.

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England / Re: Peach
« on: Saturday 20 October 12 16:56 BST (UK)  »
I went to Derbyshire Records Office (in Matlock) last Wednesday and conducted a very thorough search but did not find my ancestor Elizabeth Peach.  As part of my activity I searched for the Peach family of Stapenhill.  They are evidently one family.  They are not related to me, but if anyone reading this is interested in that Derbyshire family then I have put my stuff on
http://www.h1932.com/Peach/

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The Common Room / Re: Baptismal Sex-Discrimination
« on: Sunday 14 October 12 16:05 BST (UK)  »
On 30 March 1843 Ann says that she is "spinster".

I believe that she was telling the truth.

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The Common Room / Re: Baptismal Sex-Discrimination
« on: Sunday 14 October 12 15:19 BST (UK)  »
First an opinion.  I think the Registrar did an excellent job.  I have no criticism whatsoever to make of him.  I also believe that the information that was given to him was correct information.

Next the facts
1) Only one person's name appears in the 1840 box entitled "Signature, description and residence of informant".
2) The surname of the person in that box is Masters.
3) The full name in that box is Ann Masters.
4) On 30 March 1843 Ann gives her surname as Masters.

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The Common Room / Re: Baptismal Sex-Discrimination
« on: Saturday 13 October 12 12:52 BST (UK)  »
The four most important things when we register an England & Wales birth are
1. Where and when born
2. Name, if any
3. Sex
4. Name and surname of father
then comes -  "oh I suppose it might be worth asking who was the mother"
It may have changed, but that was the priority on the Birth Certificate some 20 years ago.

In the June 1840 General Registry Office index of births there is listed a Henry Woodfield.  That is incorrect - he should be named as Henry Masters.  I have a copy of this Birth Certificate.  Henry was born 13 March 1840 in Warwick, England.  The "Name and surname of father" is James Woodfield - his occupation is Boatman (Because this is a documentary statement of paternity I guess that James was present in the Registrar's Office when the birth was registered).  The "name, surname and maiden name of mother" is Ann Masters (i.e. only two responses for the three required pieces of information).  The informant is illiterate and therefore it is the profession hand of Mr Margetts the Registrar that writes the words within the entry "The mark X of Ann Masters, mother, Inmate at George Masters' Laborer Saltisford St Mary".  The birth was registered after the Christening - the birth was registered on 7 May 1840.  The Christening correctly names the child as Henry Masters.

Although they were a little slow in getting the baptism, and a little slow in registering the birth, they were even slower in marrying.  Henry Woodfield and Ann Masters married on 27 March 1843.  James is a Laborer (it could be read as Labour).

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The Common Room / Re: Baptismal Sex-Discrimination
« on: Saturday 13 October 12 11:11 BST (UK)  »
I would not have started this thread if I had the information provided by the first few who replied.  I have no other examples to support my original thesis that among the lower classes there was sex-discrimination which resulted in some girls not being baptised.  I now see that my thesis is wrong.  I am glad to be able to say that I was wrong because the attitude underlying it was negative.  My "topic" has been resolved to my complete satisfaction.

The last eight postings provided me with really wonderful information about copyright and other types of protection of the ownership of data-and-information that I have sought for and failed to find (because it is usually buried so deep in Websites).
David


I am still searching for the Leicestershire Baptism of Elizabeth Peach (1785 - 1787)

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I often do what I am asked to do.  I have been asked to post here that

Thomas Tandy was baptised 15 September 1824 in Radford Semele, Warwickshire, England
If this is relevant to anyone posting on this thread, please say so and I will add more details.
David

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The Common Room / Re: Baptismal Sex-Discrimination
« on: Friday 12 October 12 21:07 BST (UK)  »
Thomas Chapman was the Officiating Minister at the baptism of Susanna/Hannah.  This error of name is more understandable than the Elizabeth/Mary puzzle.
But the same Cleric!

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The Common Room / Re: Baptismal Sex-Discrimination
« on: Friday 12 October 12 16:18 BST (UK)  »
It wouldn't surprise me Jenny if you actually have found Mary Tandy.  Her age is right - she would be 18 at the time of the 1841 Census and therefore correctly listed as 15.  A difficulty is the wrong name for the mother - Mary and not the expected Elizabeth.  This may have been a silly mistake made by the Curate (Thomas Chapman).  Thomas Chapman's records appear to be secondary records written up in
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loose sheets or in rough notebooks and copying them into the register book at the end of the year
(I quote from the Dictionary of Genealogy.)  Thomas Chapman's handwriting is extremely regular on the page, just as if written at one sitting.  A "give away" is his mistake - he crosses out the entry at the top of the page because it is a duplicate of an item already written on the previous page.  The item crossed out is dated July 7 - and the item that was previously written is halfway up the previous page and is dated May 5.  This "William & Mary Tandy" only had the one child.  If we change the parents names to "William & Elizabeth" then the baptismal date of 14 September 1822 fits quite nicely after the marriage date (of William & Elizabeth) of 20 November 1821.

Fortunately Mary Tandy is not my ancestor, so I have less interest in her.  If she were my ancestor, I hope that I would have resisted the temptation.  I can't find Mary in the 1851 Census.  I can find a 14 September 1851 marriage of Mary Tandy & William Parkins in Radford Semele.  In 1861 Mary Parkins aged 38 who was born in Radford Semele was living with her husband William in Coventry.  So that will be the one baptised.  But was her mother called Mary or was it Elizabeth?  I cannot overcome my doubts, so I dismiss her with the feeble excuse that she is someone peripheral to my tree.

However Jenny, you did well.
 
Warwickshire Parish Records are Ancestry Copyright, from www.ancestry.co.uk
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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