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Scotland / Re: Ladykirk Tenant farmer Young- 1815-1822
« on: Monday 17 September 12 02:07 BST (UK)  »
Yes, Ann Young Wilson's father is listed: "Charles Wilson, Farmer (Deceased)" and her mother is listed: "Anne Wilson M.S. Young (Deceased)"

Ann Young Wilson's age is given as "74 yrs"

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Scotland / Re: Ladykirk Tenant farmer Young- 1815-1822
« on: Sunday 16 September 12 23:15 BST (UK)  »
When and where did Ann Young Wilson die?

Ann Young Wilson died 18 June 1870, Kerchesters, Sprouston, Roxburgh, Scotland per Statutory Deaths 807/00 0011, 1870.


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Berwickshire / Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« on: Sunday 16 September 12 14:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Alan

The family only remained at Ladykirk Farm for a short while. I think that we've traced them all back to Northumberland.


Gadget

Where I could obtain a list of the tenant farmers at Ladykirk for circa 1795 to 1825?

A list of the tenant farmers at Ladykirk between 1795 to 1825 would give me a list of individuals to research- especially useful given that I would only be looking for tenant farmers named Young.

I would be grateful for any help ;-)

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Scotland / Re: Ladykirk Tenant farmer Young- 1815-1822
« on: Sunday 16 September 12 14:54 BST (UK)  »
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Ann Young Wilson was born approx. 1811 per the 1841 England Census.   Ann Young Wilson married John Clay 11 Oct 1822.

Can you confirm the birth and marriage years  ???
Ann does look a bit too young to have married in 1822

ev

Added - different couples perhaps ?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0r4n/



Based on the records for Ann Young Wilson for after her mariage to John Clay- it is safe to say that Ann was born in 1797... so the age works.

Do you know where I could obtain a list of the tenant farmers at Ladykirk for circa 1795 to 1825?

A list of the tenant farmers at Ladykirk between 1795 to 1825 would give me a list of individuals to research- especially useful given that I would only be looking for tenant farmers named Young.

I would be grateful for any help ;-)
 

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Berwickshire / Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« on: Wednesday 05 September 12 02:56 BST (UK)  »
Hello there

Just spoke to one of my newly discovered Smith relatives and she tells me she has Young details on her Smith family tree.

This tree may show the Smith/Young/Ladykirk intersections...

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  I will have a look in a mo. Also she tell me she has all the Norham church yard details of headstones and so when I go up north next month I will have a look at them.

...that would be fantastic- and may well provide some great clues...

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Also if you have time to trawl through the Norham parish records which can be found on line which I found through Family Search - Diocese of Durham Bishops Transcripts ca. 1700-1900 you may find something about the Youngs - I haven't looked for three years but am convinced I noticed mention of  Grace Annes first husband.

...I will look for these records...

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  You may like to look at my family tree on Ancestory as well. There is obviously a connection between these Youngs as she ended up at the farm.

I would be very interested to see your Ancestry tree- please message me the name of the tree so I can look for it on Ancestry.

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Will try to up load the photo - it is New Ladykirk by the way.

...great.  I will look out for it!

Thank you ;-)

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Berwickshire / Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« on: Wednesday 05 September 12 02:47 BST (UK)  »
I would very much like to look at your Ancestry tree- please message me the name of the tree so I can look for it.

I will also look over the Diocese of Durham Bishops Transcripts ca. 1700-1900 on Family Search.

Thank you!

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Berwickshire / Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« on: Tuesday 04 September 12 00:09 BST (UK)  »
Hello again. Sorry to have mentioned the Fish family.  i originally thought you had mentioned them but on looking back realise you didn't! I think that the Smiths may have owned the farm  as they were living in Loanend when Grace Ann married my great grandfather and then they must have moved back to the farm  - I am presuming Grace was  there when David died.  I have been to see the farm and have a photo of it if you are interested although no doubt you could find it on google maps. it is very large and just up from the church with wonderful views.  I really don't know much about the Youngs although I think there are a few in Norham church yard.  I am going up north next month so could have a look round Norham churchyard if you would like - it is becoming quite familiar !

I could look in Berwick record office too for you as I am popping in there when I go..  Just let me know what you want to know and I can ask.

I am not being of much help to you According to information on Norham township 1864 there were several Youngs - two were monumental masons and one a provisions dealer.  No farmers at that time. Ladykirk is so close to Norham I know that folks went back and forth over the bridge into Scotland.

I will try and find out who moved into Ladykirk after the Smiths moved out.  It makes sense that Youngs were there around 1820.  My grt grt grandfathere was born 1811 and married 1834 and then moved into the farm.  Helen Young was with them.  It might also be interesting to discover what David put in his will re the farm and have a look for Helen in the censuses.

I would be very glad to see the photo of Ladykirk you mention...

A look around the church yard or the Berwich records might be just the things to reveal the name and dates for 'tenant farmer at Ladykirk uncle Young'- the uncle of Ann Young Wilson and the details about Ladykirk.

I would think that ''tenant farmer at Ladykirk uncle Young'' would have been at Ladykirk a while before 1820 -as Ann Young Wilson was 'an orphan raised by him' and Ann Young Wilson married John Clay on 11 Oct 1822 when she was 25 years of age. 

I would be very grateful for your efforts to check the church yard and the records office.

Charles Wilson and Ann Young are the parents of Ann Young Wilson- so 'tenant farmer at Ladykirk uncle Young' would be the brother of Ann Young.

I am trying to find the parents of Ann Young and 'tenant farmer uncle Young'.  I am also trying to find the dates of birth and death for Charles Wilson and Ann Young.

I'd be thrilled to know what information the Norham church yard and the Berwich records office might
provide...
Thank you very much for your help...


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Scotland / Re: Ladykirk Tenant farmer Young- 1815-1822
« on: Monday 03 September 12 23:44 BST (UK)  »
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Ann Young Wilson was born approx. 1811 per the 1841 England Census.   Ann Young Wilson married John Clay 11 Oct 1822.

Can you confirm the birth and marriage years  ???
Ann does look a bit too young to have married in 1822

Ann would have been 25 years of age at the time of her marriage to John Clay.

The record of their marriage:
11/10/1822 Clay, John [OPR Marriages 757/00 0020 0114 Whitsome and Hilton]

"1822 Oct 11Mr. John Clay Tenant in
Dykethead in the Parish of Whitsom
and Miss Ann Wilson in the Parish of Ladykirk"

Ann Young Wilson would have to have been born in 1797 because she had twin siblings born 11 Oct 1796- a brother William and a sister Isabel.

I have located the records for 16 Oct 1796, Wilson [OPR Births 676/00 0020 0072 Cockpen] which lists:
 
"William & Isabel, twins lawfull children to Chalres Wilson and
Ann Young his spouse was born in Mill (?) hulin (?)
the 11 Octr and Baptized 16: 1796- - - -."

I don't know if the twins survived and if so, if they too were raised by their uncle, the tenant farmer at Ladykirk.

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Berwickshire / Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« on: Monday 03 September 12 19:11 BST (UK)  »
Ann Young Wilson would have to have been born in 1797 because she had twin siblings born 11 Oct 1796- a brother William and a sister Isabel.

I have located the records for 16 Oct 1796, Wilson [OPR Births 676/00 0020 0072 Cockpen] which lists:
 
"William & Isabel, twins lawfull children to Chalres Wilson and
Ann Young his spouse was born in Mill (?) hulin (?)
the 11 Octr and Baptized 16: 1796- - - -."

Ann would have been 25 years of age at the time of her marriage to John Clay.

The record of their marriage:
11/10/1822 Clay, John [OPR Marriages 757/00 0020 0114 Whitsome and Hilton]

"1822 Oct 11Mr. John Clay Tenant in
Dykethead in the Parish of Whitsom
and Miss Ann Wilson in the Parish of Ladykirk"

I don't know if the twins survived and if so, if they too were raised by their uncle, the tenant farmer at Ladykirk.

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