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Lancashire / Balloon Street,Manchester
« on: Saturday 16 February 13 03:11 GMT (UK) »
I have an ancestor John Andrew Lewis born 1850 in Rhayader, Wales,a tailor (with I think a bottle problem) 
and from his photograph extremely good looking (He had lady problems too I think) 
Well, he shows nicely on the 51 to 81 census (81 in Rhayader,tailor out of employ) An old letter sent to the USA by his father indicates that he emigrated there in 1873 ( possibly with a girl named Mary?...on passenger list) (didn't get seasick) but had to have returned to be in Rhayader, Wales in 1881.
Family word of mouth indicates that he was a tailor/cutter for Co-Op Cutters,Balloon Street, Manchester and indeed there is a tailor of the right name lodging in Balloon St in 1891.However I have no proof that it is him. He married first in 1869 in Wales.
That marriage "fell apart" because the wife had two children but I think John suspected that he was not the father of either one.The naming of the second child is a story in itself.The wife died in 1876.He took up with one Hannah James (born BRE 1850) in the same year (in Manchester) and produced two children both born in Beswick.I have tracked them all down nicely. (Hannah at last count had 8 (count 'em) out of wedlock.She never married anyone.
John Andrew then marries Charlotte Barker (a Catholic girl?) 26 Dec 1882, her father being Henry, at St Patrick's,Livesey Street,Manchester.(Possibly neither family was happy about it?) One child I have found was Charles Henry born in Ancoats 1883 died the next year,buried St Phillip's. The Catholic Registers were not available at Bow Lane,Preston 20 years ago for me.There may be more children in Catholic Register baptisms/burials that I have not found.
I think that marriage failed too since this is where I lose both of them.I have found a possibility or two for both, separately in 1891/1901 but very iffy.
I really would like to find the death of John and Charlotte.He never used his middle name of Andrew unfortunately!
Is anyone related? or who perhaps can help? Anyone know about Co-Op Cutters? I have walked down Balloon Street years ago (by accident,mind the trams) and there was still a big painted sign on the brickwork that said Co-Op stores or something.
Any help would be appreciated.If anyone is related they are quite welcome to all info I have on the lad.
Thank you....Roger Lewis
(Canada) presently in Penang.
and from his photograph extremely good looking (He had lady problems too I think) Well, he shows nicely on the 51 to 81 census (81 in Rhayader,tailor out of employ) An old letter sent to the USA by his father indicates that he emigrated there in 1873 ( possibly with a girl named Mary?...on passenger list) (didn't get seasick) but had to have returned to be in Rhayader, Wales in 1881.
Family word of mouth indicates that he was a tailor/cutter for Co-Op Cutters,Balloon Street, Manchester and indeed there is a tailor of the right name lodging in Balloon St in 1891.However I have no proof that it is him. He married first in 1869 in Wales.
That marriage "fell apart" because the wife had two children but I think John suspected that he was not the father of either one.The naming of the second child is a story in itself.The wife died in 1876.He took up with one Hannah James (born BRE 1850) in the same year (in Manchester) and produced two children both born in Beswick.I have tracked them all down nicely. (Hannah at last count had 8 (count 'em) out of wedlock.She never married anyone.
John Andrew then marries Charlotte Barker (a Catholic girl?) 26 Dec 1882, her father being Henry, at St Patrick's,Livesey Street,Manchester.(Possibly neither family was happy about it?) One child I have found was Charles Henry born in Ancoats 1883 died the next year,buried St Phillip's. The Catholic Registers were not available at Bow Lane,Preston 20 years ago for me.There may be more children in Catholic Register baptisms/burials that I have not found.
I think that marriage failed too since this is where I lose both of them.I have found a possibility or two for both, separately in 1891/1901 but very iffy.
I really would like to find the death of John and Charlotte.He never used his middle name of Andrew unfortunately!
Is anyone related? or who perhaps can help? Anyone know about Co-Op Cutters? I have walked down Balloon Street years ago (by accident,mind the trams) and there was still a big painted sign on the brickwork that said Co-Op stores or something.
Any help would be appreciated.If anyone is related they are quite welcome to all info I have on the lad.
Thank you....Roger Lewis
(Canada) presently in Penang.
