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Skoosh,

I like that moniker. 

That is very interesting.  Where did you find a list with the Hugh Macdonald's listed?  I'm very interested in lists.  I wish Knoydart had a list of their people who were out in 45.  Is Glen Moriston & Urquhart part of Glengarry - maybe not?  The info I got from Tal Macdonald, a Canadian Macdonald genealogist, says that my Hugh was born about 1690 in Knoydart, Invernesshire, Scotland and died abt 1760 in Scotland. These are pretty much stock Clan Donald records.

I understand that many of those "transported" returned to Scotland after some time. I wonder what the rest of this family was doing in 45.  John Roy was born abt 1715, he would have been 30.  Plenty old enough to be fighting - but does not have the moniker of "out in 45". Interesting, my 5th great grandfather was born almost 300 years ago.  I wish I could transport myself back to that space and time.  I'm sure I would be quite surprised by what I would find.

Monica,

These are both very interesting links.  The google book in particular.  When my family wasn't marrying other Macdonalds they were marrying Macdougalds and MacIntosh's etc.

I get the sense that in the 1750's the Knoydart area was reeling from the after affects of the "45". My Macdonell's were definitely military folks. It seems like Hugh, John Roy's father, who was "Out in 45" might have a trail in Scotland.  He did not come to Canada that I am aware of.  Did Scotland keep records of all the personnel involved or noted in "45"?  I connected to rootschat.com via a link re: Jacobites being transported to Barbadoes in 1747. They had a list of all of those at one particular English port and there were 28 Macdonalds but Hugh was not one of them.  What I wonder is if there are other records relative to the disposition of specific Jacobites who fought in 45.

I am a Minnesota, American whose MacDonald's, Macdonell's came out of Glengarry, Ontario, Canada.  I have great detail on my line back to "John (Ian) Roy (Rory) (Ruari) Macdonnell" who came to the Mohawk Valley, New York, on the ship "The Pearl", with his son Duncan, in 1773. John was a loyalist during the Revolutionary war and escaped to Ontario with his military company in 1784 and settled.  All Canadian info suggests that he was from Knoydart, but no specifics.  There were at least 7 John Macdonell's or MacDonald's on the Pearl.  John is of Hugh "Out in 45", who is of Ian Mor, of Rory, of Donald, of John Mor, of Ruari, etc. I cannot keep track of when the name changes from MacDonald to Macdonell, and then back to MacDonald in Canada.  I would so much like to pin point this family in Scotland.  I have visited Scotland once (but no one place to home in on) and will be going to Glengarry, Ontario, Canada in one week to do some Canadian research.

John's son Roderick, my 4th ggrandfather was also supposedly born in Knoydart abt 1745, his son Dougald, my 3rd ggrandfather was also supposedly born in Knoydart abt 1779.  Dougald, of Roderick, of John Roy, of Hugh - has become somewhat of a mantra for me.  If anyone has any connection or info on this families location or history. in Scotland, I would be eternally grateful!