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Aberdeenshire / Re: Temperance Hall, Cuminestown
« on: Friday 31 January 25 20:14 GMT (UK)  »
Albertscott, Temperance Hall, Cuminestown.
The exact location of this building seemed to have slipped from knowledge in a relatively short period of time.  Highly unusual because the numerous records that do exist show that families lived there, well advertised village social events took place there and the hall was in frequent use as a venue for meetings of various official bodies and societies.  Moreover, there was clearly a recognised organisational structure in that the hall had a mamagement committee, a manager and its ownership was known.

Yet with all that going on, and despite the frequency of such meetings etc., none of the advertisements, published notices etc., discovered to date carry an address or location.  Presumably it was such a well known venue in the village that it was never deemed necessary to print an address -seemingly taken for granted that everyone would know where the Temperance Hall was.

I searched extensively to determine where this building once stood - even advertised in the village in the hope that someone with local knowledge might come forward but no.  It didn't help that there were a number of 'halls' marked on various maps of Cuminestown so unable to narrow it down by that means.  All to no avail.  Nothing definite or precise emerged.

Then two days ago, this excellent, very precise, information from Albertscott, right down to the name of the street and a house number.  Speculation ended.  Pleasingly, and thanks to you, this information is now available for everyone with an interest in this building.  Thank you for taking the trouble to post.  What's more impressive is IF I understand things correctly, this may be your first post.  What a great contribution. I'm so grateful.

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Aberdeenshire / Aberdeen trawl fishing boat named "Heilan Laddie"
« on: Tuesday 01 November 22 08:20 GMT (UK)  »
I'm told that the "Heilan Laddie" was a trawl fishing boat that worked out of Aberdeen, travelling to the Icelandic fishing grounds, around the early to mid 1960s. 

I've tried but been unable to discover anything more about this vessel and that led me to wonder if there are any searchable records relating to trawl fishing boats, perhaps even their crews, dating to those times.

 

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Aberdeenshire / Temperance Hall, Cuminestown
« on: Tuesday 01 November 22 08:06 GMT (UK)  »
While looking at some 1930s electoral rolls for the village of Cuminestown, Aberdeenshire,  I came across a reference to someone living at an address given simply as the "Temperance Hall, Cuminestown". 

Local enquiries carried out in and around Cuminestown and searches using old maps have failed to reveal the location of this hall. 

Can anyone help pinpoint where this building is, or once was, or bring forward suggestions as to where else one might look?

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Hello,
Thank you ever so much for remembering my research and for taking the trouble to advise of this new information.  I shall contact Shantytown and see if they are willing to forward a photo of the testimonial.
With kind regards.

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Glamorganshire / Re: Help with place name in Aberdare...
« on: Tuesday 10 November 15 19:48 GMT (UK)  »
Solved....

I am deeply grateful to CaroleW, Cell, Peter V Crabb, Ray and Bessant for taking the trouble to answer.
Each of you, in quite separate ways, has contributed to solving my query. Cell's assumptions, without ever having seen the particular entry I was researching, were exactly right.  The "Llannorgansh, Aberdare", despite being so clearly written, is actually "Glamorgansh, Aberdare".  And to Ray - the fact that 1 Thomas Street was once an Inn as well as a grocer shop is relevant to my research. Thank you again to those who took the trouble to answer.  Your efforts have enabled me to close this query.

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Glamorganshire / Help with place name in Aberdare...
« on: Thursday 05 November 15 20:50 GMT (UK)  »
On the 1871 census I've discovered someones place of birth listed, in very clear handwriting, as being "Llannorgansh, Aberdare".   I've tried but can't find any current reference to Llannorgansh. 

Is anyone able to help with information that might pinpoint this place or offer advice as to what it may have been - a street, area, name of a farm etc.


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Glamorganshire / Re: Wigley family and the Zoar Chapel, Marian Street, Clydach Vale
« on: Wednesday 29 July 15 19:22 BST (UK)  »
iolaus - I followed your advice and contacted Pontypridd. Although they didn't have the Zoar Chapel records, they couldn't have been more helpful and gave a number of suggestions as to where they might be found - currently following the leads they gave.

MarMnkly - your suggestion opened up a whole new area of research for me.  I hadn't a clue that this facility existed.  It's absolutely fascinating.  Already I've spent hours on there and discovered material about T. Wigley as well as a number of others in his immediate family for whom I had very little information.

I'm deeply grateful to you both - thank you for taking the trouble to reply to my post.

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Glamorganshire / Wigley family and the Zoar Chapel, Marian Street, Clydach Vale
« on: Tuesday 28 July 15 09:09 BST (UK)  »
Trying to discover more about the Wigley family who, around the 1850s onwards,  lived in Clydach Vale, Glamorgan and are said to have had strong links with the Zoar Chapel, Marian Street, Clydach Vale - lay preacher(s) there and one account of a Thomas Wigley perhaps being a founder of said Chapel.  Clearly, the Chapel records would be a great help but it is now closed. Despite this taking place in the relatively recent past,  I can't find where the records went - they are not at Glamorgan Archives.

The Wigleys...  Thomas (1825 - 1893) and his wife Sarah Morgan (1834 - 1897).  They married in Merthyr in 1862.  I have the 1861 through 1891 census information on them. He is variously listed as collier, gaffer, grocer and butcher.  They had five children that I know of... John (1857 - 1931), Sarah Ann (1866 - ??), Gwenllian (1869 - ??), Thomas (1870 - ??) and Joanna (1874 - 1942).
 
I'd welcome any information that will take me closer to discovering more about this family.



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Thinking I already had most everything there was available on this stem, except a photo, I posted asking for one.  No photo - instead much welcome fresh thinking and new material.  Thank you Lucy2 for the headstone information and for suggesting turning to the various boards on which he served to get further detail. You mention James Alexander Murdoch's obituary - where did you find that? Also his 1900 marriage - where did that take place?  (You landed on the correct son - James Duncan Murdoch, a medical man, (Obstetrics) who spent the remainder of his life in England.  Didn't know about his return passge from India in 1946 though. With him, the surname 'Bruton' later features, with links to the Manchester area in the north of England).  Didn't know about Margaret Murdoch's address in Greymouth - all new.  And thank you Minniehaha for new information on probates; for Margaret McMullen's death particulars; for details of her parents and for pointing to the dissolution of the Park and James Alexander Murdoch partnership in 1900 - perhaps he branched out on his own around the time he married??  And thank you to MalNZ for pointing to Murdoch, James and Roper's company history.  But no photo..........yet.  One last thing that might be of interest - James Alexander Murdoch's brother was a John Murdoch (1873 to 1955).   He is listed as onetime 'Mayor of Ross', New Zealand, quite near to Hokitika, so I'm going to see what's publicly available about him.  Thank you again to everyone involved in providing this very interesting new information.  I am most grateful.

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