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Ah, Sparrett you are finding some utter gems! I'd wondered if Wfred & Harry were twins last night when I shut down, as Harry's death records indicated a birth date of 1917, which seemed a little too close to 1916 to rule out the possibility of them being twins. I'm about to get back into it for the day now, so you've certainly given me heaps to play with! Can I ask, did you find the twin info on a publicly available site, or on older records, as Cando was explaining to me earlier?

No worries, Ros - I appreciate all the help and info. I'd got pretty slick with finding UK stuff, but the Australian formats are very different, and it's quite a shift in thinking, really. This is probably the first branch that I've really got stuck into as far as Aussie records are concerned - and sometimes you read so much background info that it all just becomes a blurr - there's nothing quite like getting stuck in and learning as you go. I am truly appreciative all all the help. 

Goodness! I'm quite overwhelmed. I'm slowly working my way through everyone's hints, little bit by little bit. I STILL cannot find the record that Raylen first put me onto, with the Reg# 31259 - when I use that registration no. only for the search form on Vic BMD, it takes me to a page which doesn't have any Palmers on it, nor any Wfreds, and it is a single page. Can I ask where you found the record, Raylen?

The info about Claude & Elsie's twin sons was really interesting - I've traced both of them through as far as the 1980 Electoral Rolls (sorry Cando - I've spent most of my Ancestry time so far on the UK side of the family, so my fingers almost automatically type 'Census' - I do know better, and will try to get my facts correct next time). It doesn't seem that Kenneth married or had children, but Robert married a Lois Lillian (haven't found her maiden name yet) and moved to Queensland - they don't seem to have had any children.

Very appreciatively,
Anna

I have been researching the family of Charles Henry Palmer (1872–1954) and Nelly Parry (1876–1952), married 1897. Lived in the Oakley, Malvern, Hawthorn area of Melbourne

I have found several children"

• Reuben Charles (1900–1935) -can't find a marriage record (if there is one), or cause of death
• Ruth Myrtle (1903–1975)
• Edith Minnie Palmer (1907 – ...) - no record after 1937 Census at 14 Moorehouse Street, Malvern, where she is listed as a clerk. No confirmable marriage record, further Census listings, or death record
• Wfred Palmer  (... - 1916) - Death record lists Chas Hy Palmer and Nellie Parry as parents. There is a burial for Winifred Palmer (but no Wilfred) at Springvale Botanical Cemetery for 1 Nov 1916, which at this point I am accepting as "Wfred" as many other family members are also buried there. Cannot find any record of when this person was born, however. Help?
• Hy - (1897 - ... ) born to Charles & Helen Palmer - not convinced this is the son of Charles Henry & Nellie, but as they were married in 1897, and that Nellie is sometimes a pet-form of Helen, I thought I'd include it, as it may be helpful in confirming "Wfred" in some way.

"Wfred" is my primary question, but if you stumble across anything which helps with the bold bits regarding the others, I'd be grateful of all input.

Many thanks,
Anna

Thank you SO much for the steps, Ros - it was a great help. PROV isn't a site I've had any previous experience with, so I wasn't at all sure I was "doing it right". In fact, I'd previous got as far as the form summarising the details of EJP's death, but every time I tried to "view file" something had a fit, and I'd end up back at the previous page, or lost off in some area which seemed entirely irrelevant. All worked beautifully just now, and I am printing off the original document as we speak. Fascinating stuff. Again, thank you so much for your help.