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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating please
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 23:28 BST (UK) »
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating please
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 23:27 BST (UK) »
Here's the back of the photo. The only way I could make it small enough to attach was to crop it into 2 halves! One day I'll learn how to compress photos.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating please
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 23:16 BST (UK) »
We have another mystery photo which we think might be Helen Mullender and her husband John Perrin, with 2 of their children. One of the children has an amazing bonnet; not sure if it's a boy or a girl! Any suggestions as to date gratefully received! The image is rather dark I'm afraid - if I lighten it too much it becomes larger than the permitted attachment!
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating please
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 23:11 BST (UK) »
That's brilliant - very many thanks. I had no idea the jackets were called dolmans - they're certainly very distinctive. If it is Sarah Mullender and her daughters, their ages in the mid 1860s would have been Sarah 50, Elizabeth 30 and Helen 20 - certainly possible.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Dating please
« on: Saturday 18 October 14 17:21 BST (UK) »
This photo, taken by Barrett of Lowestoft, was among my mother-in-law's photos. Her grandmother was Helen Perrin nee Mullender, born 27 August 1845 and baptised 10 January 1847 in Pakefield, Suffolk. Her parents were John Mullender and Sarah Alden, and according to the 1851 census she had an older sister Elizabeth, who was 15 in 1851. I wondered if this photo could be Helen and Elizabeth with their mother - it's hard to tell the women's ages, so equally it might be three sisters. But maybe the costumes are datable, and especially the velvet jackets that two of them are wearing. Any suggestions gratefully received. Thanks.
Linda
Linda
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Devon / Re: Marriage 1770 Broadhembury
« on: Sunday 16 February 14 00:53 GMT (UK) »
I have George Johnson and Mary Harding in my tree; their daughter Sarah was my 3 x great grandmother. I have quite a lot of information which the online parish clerk sent me when I enquired about Sarah Johnson's marriage to James Budd, which it turns out was in Exeter. I have attached the file.
Re age at marriage, while some couples married fairly young quite a lot were in their late 20s or even early 30s, and it seems quite common for the woman to be older than the man.
Re age at marriage, while some couples married fairly young quite a lot were in their late 20s or even early 30s, and it seems quite common for the woman to be older than the man.
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Devon / Re: James PILE
« on: Tuesday 28 January 14 17:25 GMT (UK) »
No I haven't got all of those - thanks. Christopher Cobbledick also married a Kelly daughter, though I'll have to look it up to see which one! We found his gravestone in Northam churchyard too - I have lots of photos of Kelly and related gravestones in both Northam and Appledore.
Do you know the two books on Appledore by David Carter? Lots of useful information. He said that one of the 4 houses in The Path, which is off Irsha Street, was the King's Head, and when we stayed in Appledore just over a year ago we stayed at No 4 The Path.
“The property at numbers 1 and 2 was a pub called the King’s Head which dates back to at least 1822 when the landlord was Samuel Sanders. In the 1870s Christopher Cobbledick became the landlord, staying until the pub closed in 1901. When the house was renovated in the 1970s Cobbledick’s suit was discovered still hanging in a sealed chamber!”
Samuel Sanders may be connected to William Kelly’s 2nd wife Mary Ann Perry nee Sanders.
1871 Clark and Mary Swift are listed at the King’s Head, Irsha Street, Appledore.
Mary Ann Swift (c1843 – 1933) = daughter of John & Prudence Kelly. Clark Swift (c1841 – 1914) = innkeeper and mariner in 1871.
Christopher Cobbledick (c1837 – 1923) married Sarah (1840 – 1918), daughter of John and Prudence Kelly. In 1871 Christopher and Sarah Cobbledick were living in Fore Street, Northam with their 4 children, and either in the same property or next door to John Kelly senior and John Kelly junior, both widowed, and next to Thomas Kelly at the Kingsley Hotel on the other side. Thomas Kelly doesn’t appear on the Appledore censuses, implying that he’s in Northam. Ditto John senior.
I imagine there was plenty of traffic to and fro across the Bristol Channel - there must have been huge numbers of boats that people could hitch a ride on!
Do you know the two books on Appledore by David Carter? Lots of useful information. He said that one of the 4 houses in The Path, which is off Irsha Street, was the King's Head, and when we stayed in Appledore just over a year ago we stayed at No 4 The Path.
“The property at numbers 1 and 2 was a pub called the King’s Head which dates back to at least 1822 when the landlord was Samuel Sanders. In the 1870s Christopher Cobbledick became the landlord, staying until the pub closed in 1901. When the house was renovated in the 1970s Cobbledick’s suit was discovered still hanging in a sealed chamber!”
Samuel Sanders may be connected to William Kelly’s 2nd wife Mary Ann Perry nee Sanders.
1871 Clark and Mary Swift are listed at the King’s Head, Irsha Street, Appledore.
Mary Ann Swift (c1843 – 1933) = daughter of John & Prudence Kelly. Clark Swift (c1841 – 1914) = innkeeper and mariner in 1871.
Christopher Cobbledick (c1837 – 1923) married Sarah (1840 – 1918), daughter of John and Prudence Kelly. In 1871 Christopher and Sarah Cobbledick were living in Fore Street, Northam with their 4 children, and either in the same property or next door to John Kelly senior and John Kelly junior, both widowed, and next to Thomas Kelly at the Kingsley Hotel on the other side. Thomas Kelly doesn’t appear on the Appledore censuses, implying that he’s in Northam. Ditto John senior.
I imagine there was plenty of traffic to and fro across the Bristol Channel - there must have been huge numbers of boats that people could hitch a ride on!
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Devon / Re: James PILE
« on: Tuesday 28 January 14 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Yes I did notice the lava seller - we used to buy laver bread in Bristol in the early 1970s, at a greengrocers at the bottom of Blackboy Hill. I haven't bought any since living in Wales though!
And yes, I found the publicans on your website. The second John Kelly is the twin of Thomas, and both John senior and Thomas had a second occupation as ropemakers. Thomas is listed as ropemaker in 1851. William was also a bootmaker. Mary Ann Perry nee Sanders was his second wife and mother of Harriet. His first wife was Elizabeth Pile. Their oldest child Maria Pile Kelly, my great great grandmother, was barmaid in the Royal George in 1861. She married Herbert Ebenezer Glover, an Appledore mariner, in 1863 at Swansea Register Office. I wonder if his parents disapproved of him marrying the barmaid and so they went off to Swansea to get married! Pure speculation on my part, but I can't think of any other reason for them not to marry in Appledore.
And yes, I found the publicans on your website. The second John Kelly is the twin of Thomas, and both John senior and Thomas had a second occupation as ropemakers. Thomas is listed as ropemaker in 1851. William was also a bootmaker. Mary Ann Perry nee Sanders was his second wife and mother of Harriet. His first wife was Elizabeth Pile. Their oldest child Maria Pile Kelly, my great great grandmother, was barmaid in the Royal George in 1861. She married Herbert Ebenezer Glover, an Appledore mariner, in 1863 at Swansea Register Office. I wonder if his parents disapproved of him marrying the barmaid and so they went off to Swansea to get married! Pure speculation on my part, but I can't think of any other reason for them not to marry in Appledore.
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Devon / Re: James PILE
« on: Saturday 25 January 14 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Sorry - not concentrating - I don't know why I thought your name was James!
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