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Further to my post saying I was confident that David Hall, miller, of Coppanagh, was a son of William & Arabella Hall of Lattacapple, it has been pointed out that this is very unlikely and I now agree.

William & Arabella's son David was still living with his parents as a "labourer" in the 1821 census. The Coppanagh family have a separate history, indicating they were more prosperous, with more valuable assets, than the Hall family in Lattacapple.

There must be, however, some link between the families to explain the inheritance of shared DNA.

  Hi -  I too am interested in the Wilson family of Pottagh. My ancestors Charles Price and Mary Wilson married in 1811 in Coleraine. A newspaper notice said both were from Coleraine, but if so, then perhaps only for a short period - Charles was actually from Ballintoy parish in Co Antrim. I wonder is there a clue to Mary’s origin in a later lease. In 1828 Charles' father leased a house to his other son John just before he married - this lease was for the three lives of "John Willson of Pottagh in the County of Londonderry" and his sons Charles and John. This was very much an inter-family lease and there must be some good reason why John Willson was selected as a life. Was he perhaps Charles Price’s brother-in-law? This is a theory I would love to prove or disprove. Any further information on the Pottagh Wilsons would be gratefully received.  Thanks.

Between 1981 and 1990 I made notes immediately after speaking to various Co Cork people about my Cork ancestry. I now wish to make those notes available to anyone interested. Any clarification comments added at this stage are in square brackets. I would welcome any questions or comments.
 
Source: Maud Vickery (b. 1896) of Donemark Falls, Bantry, Co Cork.
 
Notes from conversation on 4 May 1983
 
- A Vickery Family Bible went to the USA and is now probably lost. Someone who copied it showed the original John Vickery’s wife as Catherine Swanton. 
- She thinks that the Rooska farm [lived in by earliest John Vickery] was passed to John’s son William, who perhaps had no children. Ownership then passed to the Whiddy branch who rented it out. At present a Sullivan family live in it, having bought from the Vickerys some 20-30 years ago – previously they rented. As a child she thought that the original house was a ruin but the Sullivan occupiers say it is the original. 
- The original John Vickery’s tomb is in the old churchyard – straight up from the gate, slightly to the left, opposite ruined church. The Ballycommane branch kept this tomb - a tablet at its side records a 1914/16 burial. 
- She thinks the [Vickery] history compiled by the Clancoole people was primarily for children & it contains a number of inaccuracies. 
- She says that both Sullivans and Vickerys (she is descended from both) always said Michael Sullivan was descended from the O’Sullivan Beare of Dunboy. Michael Sullivan is mentioned in a book “The Two Chiefs of Dunboy” as a son of McFinnan Dhu (Dereen) of Dunboy Castle. 
- Our branch of the Sullians were known as “the Sullivan Hurrigs”.
 
Notes from conversation on 5 May 1983
 
- Mrs Phipps [Mary nee Sullivan 1890-1977] told her that she had read that Michael O’Sullivan’s father had lost his farm through trading with the French. He, Michael, later fought a duel with the son of the new owner and lost a couple of toes as a result. Michael was very tall, very quiet and very handsome. 
- Mrs Phipps also said that Michael O’Sullivan was a Catholic but allowed his wife Mary Vickery to bring up the children as Church of Ireland. He, however, remained a Catholic all his life and was buried one. He was respected around Bantry for this. 
- As a child, she was shown an old wall, since gone, to the right of the present house at Rooska. However, the present occupier Mrs O’Sullivan apparently insists the present house is the original one.
 
Notes from conversation on 5 June 1984
 
- She gave credence to the story of the Sullivan family being descended from the O’Sullivan Beare because a Roger Sullivan who was generally known to be a descendant always said (in her youth) that the Sullivans of Tedagh were related to him.
 
Notes from conversation on 14 Aug 1985
 
- She heard the story of Michael O’Sullivan’s father losing his farm from Mrs Phipps (I was wrong in thinking she had read it somewhere). 
- In the 1920s-30s Roger Sullivan of Reendonegan frequently told Maud they were related. She assumes that he meant through her Sullivan grandmother. It was generally accepted that he was descended from the Dunboy family – he was commonly known as “the last Chieftain”.

Between 1981 and 1990 I made notes immediately after speaking to various Co Cork people about my Cork ancestry. I now wish to make those notes available to anyone interested. Any clarification comments added at this stage are in square brackets. I would welcome any questions or comments.

 
Source: Richard Dukelow of Brahalish, Durrus, Co Cork
 
Notes from conversation on 29 Jan 1981
 
- William Dukelow [his great grandfather] built the house lived in by the present Dukelows. The half on the left (pink) was built first, then another piece was added for his son William when he got married; that part has now passed to the McCarthys. 
- William Dukelow had previously lived in a house, now totally disappeared, behind the present house. 
- No knowledge of William Dukelow being wealthy; he was apparently in danger of being evicted and built the outhouse (at right angles to the house) in order to appear more industrious – built in front of the house so that it could be seen. 
- William Dukelow fell off his horse, returning from Durrus races. The horse returned alone. His body was washed away and not found for a couple of days.
 
 
Source: Mary Dukelow (wife of Richard above), Brahalish, Durrus, Co Cork.
 
Notes from conversation on 7 May 1989
 
- She was recently told by Mrs Roberts of St Luke’s [Home] that the Peter Dukelow who lived briefly, before going to Droumreagh, was William of Brahalish’s first cousin. 
- Having been written-to in advance [with the suggestion], Mrs Roberts stated that William Dukelow’s mother was Williamson. 
- Richard and Ursulla Dukelow of Crottees were first-cousins - as both had father’s called Charles, this must be through their mothers. Ursulla’s mother was definitely Williamson. 
- Ritchie Dukelow (late of Crottees) was reputed to be the product of three pairs of married cousins.

Between 1981 and 1990 I made notes immediately after speaking to various Co Cork people about my Cork ancestry. I now wish to make those notes available to anyone interested. Any clarification comments added at this stage are in square brackets. I would welcome any questions or comments.
 
Source: Anne (Nan) Dungen (nee Bryan) (1900 – 1985) then of St Luke’s Home, Cork City
 
My great Aunt Nan had previously written to me that the mothers of her grandparents were Deane, Jagoe, Shannon & Sweetnam.
 
Notes from conversation on 28 Jan 1981
 
- Margaret Sullivan’s family [her great grandmother] came from Tadagh near Bantry. They were Roman Catholics, Margaret changed to Church of Ireland [see below for correction]. 
- The Shannons came from Brahalish she thinks, but was not sure. 
- She did not know where the Sweatnams came from. 
- She stated that the Bryans of Cunnickeenbuee [Knockeenboy] were once wealthy, but deteriorated.
 
Notes from conversation on 31 Jan 1981
 
- William Dukelow fell off his horse when it shied, coming home from Durrus Races. He had been drinking. 
- Margaret Sullivans [family] was Protestant before she married William Dukelow, however they may have been Roman Catholics originally.
 
Notes from conversation on 1 May 1983
 
- Our Sullivans were O’Sullivan Beare. 
- She said her mother had told her of a Sullivan who married a Vickery and she had forced him to change his religion. She promised him “a boot of gold or a revolver” (I can’t say I understand this!)