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Devon / Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« on: Monday 22 October 12 01:56 BST (UK)  »
(back from 3 weeks absence, cert arrived just after we left)

I now have a copy of Robert's birth certificate. It doesn't seem to add anything to what Deb and Janey reported above.

"No. 199,
fifth [I think] February 1853 [could be 1855] Whimple,
Robert,
boy,
father James Dunn,
mother Mary Ann Dunn, nee Davy [? -ey],
father's occ Labourer,
informant X her mark Mary Ann Dunn mother Whimple,
registered nineteenth March 1853 [pretty clear that time],
registrar Henry Westcott"

So now I need James but don't know his age or place of birth and aren't we getting back to around the time before compulsory registration?

Bob

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Devon / Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« on: Thursday 20 September 12 19:21 BST (UK)  »
In case Bob wants to see the trees -- Anc'y trees are all mirrored at

http://www.mundia.com

Sign up, search trees ("Find People" button), send private messages, all free.

Most people who have trees at Anc'y don't know that Anc'y reproduces them at Mundia;
there's some tiny little fine-print notice someplace about this.


Whoops! I have a strong suspicion that my brother in law is the author/owner of the Ancestry tree! I have copies of his work and at first sight he knows something we don't know and doesn't know something that we do. (smile). I'll sort it out and report again.

Incidentally, he has yet another date for grandad's death - 1926 according to the register at Chard.

Bob (refer my photo of great grandma - RGD's mother - above)

(last line edited 22 Oct 12)

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Devon / Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« on: Thursday 20 September 12 16:17 BST (UK)  »
Oh My

There's a tree on ancestry

Robert George Dunn b 1878 s/o Robert Dunn 1853 and Ann Blackmore 1849

Robert Dunn 1852 s/o James Dunn 1825 and Mary Ann Davey 1815

have we found a James Dunn 1825 yet?


Thanks Deb

This is the photo of RGD's mother, so Ann Blackmore, that auntie gave me, saying that her father visited her at 'Mappowders'. I now have doubts as there is no Mappowders anywhere near. Maypowders, near Aunk (Clyst Hydon/Clyst St Lawrence, Devon) fits quite nicely.

Bob

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Devon / Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« on: Wednesday 19 September 12 20:32 BST (UK)  »
Wow, Ladies! You've got my head spinning. I hope it's clear that I had no wish to hijack JiminWales's query and only threw in my little bit in case it helped him. Since then, things have got somewhat exciting - and who am I to want it oherwise? Warm thanks to you both.

I had no plans to seek a certificate, Deb. The truth is, I'm very green at this

Just to keep the pot boiling, here is a photo of grandfather's grave at Wambrook, near Chard, Somerset, taken a few days ago. Until my aunt died and wished to be buried with him there was no stone and he was actually the first to be buried in the extended churchyard which is distinguished with a low ridge. The church contains a bier on which he was conveyed from the cottage where he died in Higher Wambrook.

Bob

(edit: I've reduced the already small photo to conform with Forum rules)

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Devon / Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« on: Wednesday 08 August 12 13:41 BST (UK)  »
Regarding Janey's note placing George/Robert's family in Whimple it occurred to me to check the map

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=whimple+devon&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1280&bih=629&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=SVgiUKW9IcH80QX9vYGwCw&ved=0CEYQ_AUoAg

and lo and behold, there, just a bit east of Whimple, is 'Cotleigh Wood' - a good enough reason for naming his census address as Cotleigh (Cottage)? I wonder.

And just a bit further on we have Escot Park, home, still, of the Kennaway family and where my grandmother Jane Dunn had some connection. Quite likely she was 'in service' there. I must check the details but she received a presentation on behalf of either the house or a girls' friendly society - maybe both - of a framed picture which passed to my aunt who kept it hanging over her bed, and then from her children to my sister. This is all tying in nicely and adding a great deal of human interest.

I'm only sorry that we continue to stray from JiminWales's original request. Perhaps there is a link in there somewhere that may be helpful to him.

bp (edit: missing 'r' in Regarding)

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Devon / Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« on: Tuesday 07 August 12 16:05 BST (UK)  »
Thank you again. I have no other record except what (I think) mother told me. When I am that way I'll check his gravestone. There was no stone until my aunt wished to be buried with him and my cousins provided the stone with both names, father and daughter. I'll see what name(s) they gave him.

For what it is worth I'll try to append his signature on the survey form, I hope there's no harm in that.

bp

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Devon / Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« on: Tuesday 07 August 12 07:36 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks for all that information. I had hoped that my earlier reply might have helped jiminwales but no doubt yours will be much more relevant to his original request.

My memory may well be at fault regarding 'Robert George'; you are right he is just 'George' on the Census return so 'George Robert' may be his full name. It is Cottleigh on the return though (two t's) but Cotleigh Cottage, Ottery makes more sense. For what it is worth, my aunt (middle sister) gave me a faded photograph of her father's mother 'at Mappowders' and she recalled that he visited her there from time to time. My niece has traced a Mappowders, house or cottage, near Clyst Hydon which fits the general area but the photo gives no indication of locality.

(I paid my dues to see the record online when the details were released - a year early as I recall - so I suppose it is OK for me to quote them here?)

bp

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Devon / Re: William DUNN born circa 1791 in Tiverton
« on: Wednesday 01 August 12 21:31 BST (UK)  »
My grandfather, Robert George Dunn was born and christened in Bradninch and died and is buried in Wambrook, Somerset when my mother was about 14. That would be about 1924. Mother told me her dad was around 40 when he died, so born around 1880 (pneumonia?). In the 1911 Census he is recorded as 'waggoner on farm'. My mother is listed as a baby (b. Nov 1910) with two older sisters and wife Jane (nee Kingsland). The address was given as Cottleigh, Ottery St Mary; whether that fits with mother's statement that she was born at Tipton St John (only a few months earlier) I don't know. The only Cottleigh I have found is further east and hardly Tipton or Ottery. The middle sister told me she was born at Great Well, Ottery

Later on there was a son, William who died in his early 20s, about 1942, buried with his mother at Rockbeare.

I recall checking the Bradninch church registers in Exeter Records Office some years ago and found that a large number of young people including grandfather were christened together on Christmas Day (local tradition?). I am now 76 and another Robert, and may have lost the notes I made then. If we had the date that might help - but maybe the children were of different ages...

If any of this seems relevant, please leave a note here and I will try to find any other information that may have survived. Judging by my mother's account of their many homes I would guess that RGD was in the habit, choice or necessity, of moving on pretty regularly from farm to farm but that does not necessarily mean that his father, whoever he was, was of the same inclination.

Good hunting!

BP

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