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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will from 1668 - Need help reading
« on: Saturday 03 January 26 03:53 GMT (UK) »
Note also that 5 March 1661 is an Old Style date. In modern dating this would be 5 March 1662.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will from 1668 - Need help reading
« on: Saturday 03 January 26 03:47 GMT (UK) »
My best attempt at the witnesses:
Sealed in the presents
of [?] Goddard
X Tho: Masons marke
William ffox his marke
Goddard's first name is a puzzle. The last part could be len: but that's far from certain.
Sealed in the presents
of [?] Goddard
X Tho: Masons marke
William ffox his marke
Goddard's first name is a puzzle. The last part could be len: but that's far from certain.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Will from 1668 - Need help reading
« on: Saturday 03 January 26 03:34 GMT (UK) »
I have transcribed the bulk of the significant parts of the will. I've skipped the first two paragraphs of formalities: you can have a go at those yourself. However note that the date appears to be 5 March 1661.
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Inprimis I give and bequeath to my sonn Thomas halfe
my Liveing or Chattle lease duering his naturall life
Item I give and bequeath to my sonn William the other
halfe of my Liveing or Chattle lease duering my terme
and in Case my sonn Thomas shall marry with the
assent or Consent of my overseers of this my ^last^ will
then my will is he should have halfe my liveing dureing
my whole terme & soe will(ia)m my sonn on the same
condision haveing the consent of my overseers:
Item I give & bequeath to my daughter Sara my best
bedd & bedsteed with the best sheets boulster & pellows
blankets & coverlet thereto belonging: It(em) I give
unto my daughter Sara fower score pounds in money
to be paid her within twelve monethes after my decease
by my Executors: All the rest of my good(es) both
moveable & unmoveable my debts paid & funerall
Exspences and will p(er)formed I give & bequeath to my
two sonns Thomas and William whom I appoint &
Constitute my full & sole Executors of this my last
Will & testament And I doe desire my brother law [sic]
Broad and my brother law Goddard to be the overseers: to
see this ^my^ will La [sic] fully p(er)formed & keept: in witnes
wherof I have sett my hand & seale
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Inprimis I give and bequeath to my sonn Thomas halfe
my Liveing or Chattle lease duering his naturall life
Item I give and bequeath to my sonn William the other
halfe of my Liveing or Chattle lease duering my terme
and in Case my sonn Thomas shall marry with the
assent or Consent of my overseers of this my ^last^ will
then my will is he should have halfe my liveing dureing
my whole terme & soe will(ia)m my sonn on the same
condision haveing the consent of my overseers:
Item I give & bequeath to my daughter Sara my best
bedd & bedsteed with the best sheets boulster & pellows
blankets & coverlet thereto belonging: It(em) I give
unto my daughter Sara fower score pounds in money
to be paid her within twelve monethes after my decease
by my Executors: All the rest of my good(es) both
moveable & unmoveable my debts paid & funerall
Exspences and will p(er)formed I give & bequeath to my
two sonns Thomas and William whom I appoint &
Constitute my full & sole Executors of this my last
Will & testament And I doe desire my brother law [sic]
Broad and my brother law Goddard to be the overseers: to
see this ^my^ will La [sic] fully p(er)formed & keept: in witnes
wherof I have sett my hand & seale
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Hand writing please, it's from a burial index
« on: Friday 02 January 26 17:22 GMT (UK) »
I'd say it's Ed. welch.
The loop on the l in welch is to the right of the main ascender whereas the loop on the d in Ed. is before the main ascender.
Also the word in the top Backshell line is: thelder = the elder
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I also think it's: buryed
The loop on the l in welch is to the right of the main ascender whereas the loop on the d in Ed. is before the main ascender.
Also the word in the top Backshell line is: thelder = the elder
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I also think it's: buryed
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with will of William Brown Part 1
« on: Wednesday 31 December 25 16:26 GMT (UK) »
Third image:
Not sic - the word is Issue again.
...to devolve to my...
Not sic - the word is Issue again.
...to devolve to my...
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with will of William Brown Part 1
« on: Wednesday 31 December 25 16:21 GMT (UK) »
Second image:
...Brown his heirs Executors...
...no lawful Issue then...
Note I added to my first reply about the time you posted your thanks.
...Brown his heirs Executors...
...no lawful Issue then...
Note I added to my first reply about the time you posted your thanks.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help with will of William Brown Part 1
« on: Wednesday 31 December 25 16:15 GMT (UK) »
First image:
...maker hereby revoking ^and making...
...ffirst whereas a
Legacy of one hundred pounds was given to my
wife Joan Brown by her late Sister Susannah Buncomb
in Six months after Thomas Buncombs decease
her said husband...
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...pitminster...
...maker hereby revoking ^and making...
...ffirst whereas a
Legacy of one hundred pounds was given to my
wife Joan Brown by her late Sister Susannah Buncomb
in Six months after Thomas Buncombs decease
her said husband...
ADDED:
...pitminster...
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin 1545 Admon for 1532 Will for Agnes
« on: Wednesday 31 December 25 11:38 GMT (UK) »I am now thinking that if the nuncupative will was adjudged to have been properly executed then it would surely have been deemed to replace the earlier written will. As such, the probate of the written will first made was done erroneously and the nuncupative will was subsequently proved instead.
Yes, it makes general sense to me. However, the exact circumstances surrounding the probate of the "written will first made" remain unknown.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Latin 1545 Admon for 1532 Will for Agnes
« on: Wednesday 31 December 25 10:32 GMT (UK) »Agnes' nuncupative will was proved on 10th July 1545 (https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/5111/records/892178?tid=&pid=&queryId=d1486d86-fcd8-4446-a8b6-673c6939cd7a&_phsrc=jlo3112&_phstart=successSource), so it isn't this strange given that the earlier written will was probated on 1st July.
I think you mean there is something strange, although you say "so it isn't this strange".
It does seem unusual. The sequence is:
25 May 1545 - Made nuncupative will.
1 July 1545 - A written will of unknown date proved in Middlesex Archdeaconry court.
10 July 1545 - Nuncupative will proved in PCC.
I would expect there to be an explanation in the Archdeaconry court file as to why it was kicked up to the PCC. It may be that assets of sufficient value were found outside Middlesex, requiring it to be handled by the superior court. However it could also be related to the discovery of the second will.