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Worcestershire / Re: Reuben Turvey born Pershore cir 1828
« on: Wednesday 26 March 08 14:16 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Mike.  That ties in with the census work I did yesterday tracing John Turvey born cir 1824. His wife was called Emma. I'd really like to trace the wedding of his father John Turvey born cir 1786 to Margaret born cir 1791.  Although the 1841 census shows John and Margaret to have two children, Agnes aged 15 and Barnard aged 12, church records I've trawled through so far haven't produced any baptisms of children of John and Margaret Turvey.  Have you come across any? Perhaps they moved into the area after their children were born.
Mary

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Worcestershire / Re: Reuben Turvey born Pershore cir 1828
« on: Wednesday 26 March 08 10:34 GMT (UK)  »
I think the John Turvey who you think is a Chelsea pensioner was actually in the hospital as a patient.    I found him in the 1891 in Chelsea Royal Hospital and then in the 1901 census with his wife Emma in Baldock, Hertfordshire.  The 1901 census states that he is an army pensioner, born Pershore cir 1836 and HE HAS LOST AN ARM AND A LEG.  Do you know how we can find army pension records?  Which war do you think he lost his arm and leg?   As you say though it doesn't help finding the elusive Reuben's parents.
When I was last in Worcester ( last Thursday) I forgot to look up John Turvey marriages for the period 1790 to 1830  in the  marriage index books.  Is there any chance you could do that for me.  It might lead us to the conclusion that this Turvey family moved to Pershore after the 1840's and that is why we can't find Reuben's birth.
Kind Regards, Mary

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Worcestershire / Re: Reuben Turvey born Pershore cir 1828
« on: Tuesday 25 March 08 20:11 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Jim for giving me details of non conformist churches.  Next time I'm in Worcester family history centre I'll see if they have records of baptisms for those churches.
3 questions answered 3 to go.  Trouble is those 3 are the difficult ones. 
Does anyone think Reuben Turvey might have been a Jew?  It's just that Reuben is an unusual name.
Thanks everyone for your help,
Mary

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Worcestershire / Re: Reuben Turvey born Pershore cir 1828
« on: Tuesday 25 March 08 18:54 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for looking for me.  I have spent the day researching the following entry in the 1841 census in Pershore Holy Cross.
John Turvey  55  sieve maker
Margaret Turvey 50
John Turvey 17
Agnes Turvey 15
Barnard Turvey 12
I wondered if Barnard was our Reuben. (Desperation setting in here!) and decided to eliminate him by following Bernard through the census's to prove he wasn't Reuben.  ( If that makes sense).  I couldn't find Barnard again in the census or his death.   I couldn't find Agnes again or her marriage.  This supports my case that it may be wrong names on the 1841 census.  I couldn't find Bernard or Agnes's christening in the notes I made from Holy Cross church baptisms but they may have been baptised in St Andrews.
I did find John Turvey junior again born cir 1824. in the 1851 census.  Interestingly, despite being married he is back home with his father John Turvey in the 1851 census and John Turvey senior gives his profession as Postman!
John Turvey junior is found in the 1851 census on ancestry under John Surrey. in the 1891 census under John Turney and in the 1901 census under John Surrey.
No wonder we are struggling. 
I'm trying to find a link between this family and Reuben's family to try and see if the John senior is the father of Reuben.
Hope this hasn't confused you further!
Mary

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Worcestershire / Re: Reuben Turvey born Pershore cir 1828
« on: Tuesday 25 March 08 10:47 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Jim,
What a useful site.  I've bookmarked it for future reference.  It has a postboy on it which I guess is the same as a post man. 
2 questions answered, 4 to go.  What a great lot of people roots chatters are.
Thanks again,
Mary

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Worcestershire / Re: Reuben Turvey born Pershore cir 1828
« on: Monday 24 March 08 14:39 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Wozzle.  I've  just done that and  found it very useful.  One question answered , five to go.  Here's hoping some roots- chatters can help with those five.
Thanks again,
Mary

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Worcestershire / Reuben Turvey born Pershore cir 1828
« on: Sunday 23 March 08 22:59 GMT (UK)  »
Can any one help me find details of Reuben Turvey's birth cir 1828 in Pershore and also of his brother George cir 1820.
The details I have about Reuben are that he married Eliza Forest/Forrester in Besford Chapel on 17/09/1848.  The wedding certificate states that Reuben was 20 years old and a postman.  His father was John Turvey.  Unfortunately there are several John Turveys born about 1800 in Pershore and I have no way of knowing which one was Reuben's father until I find details of his baptism.  I have searched Pershore Holy Cross, St. Andrews, Besford and Pinvin church records but have had no joy.
I haven't found Reuben in the 1841 census but in the 1851 census he is living in the Holy Cross district of Pershore.  The census entry reads-
Reuben Turvey  age 23         Postman                                 born Pershore
Eliza Turvey       age 20                                                        born Besford
George Turvey brother age 30 Private in the 17th Lancers born Pershore
Mary Turvey age 28 step-sister  Soldiers wife born Oxfordshire Eustand?
Mary Ann Turvey dau aged 5 months                                   born Pershore
I suspect step-sister should be sister-in-law!
Reuben and Eliza must have moved around between the 1851 census and the 1861 census because the 1861 census finds them back in Pershore with 2 more children John aged 9 and Alice age 7, both born in Hemmel Hempstead.  Reuben's age is given as 32 and he is now working as a agricultural labourer.
By the 1871 census Reuben and Eliza have moved to Evesham where they live until "death us do part"
My questions are
1. Can anyone find details of Reuben and George Turvey's baptism?
2. What did a postman do in 1851?
3.  What are the 17th Lancers and where were they based?
4.  Are there any non conformist Churches in Pershore that Reuben and George might have been baptised in?
5.  Where were Reuben and George in the 1841 census?
6.  Any bright ideas on how I can identify the correct John Turvey who is their father?
I live 2 hours drive away from Worcester family record office ( but isn't it great) and so would really appreciate any help anyone can give me with this.
Thanks.  Mary

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Somerset / Re: Richard PERRY in Ilchester jail 1841
« on: Sunday 23 March 08 14:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Arf for all your work.  It's really appreciated.  Richard Perry went on to marry Sarah and William Rapson's daughter Hannah.  I don't know if the  George  and William Rapson also mentioned in Ilchester jail were Sarah's sons but I'm planning a visit to Taunton in May so hopefully I shall be able to find out from church records then.  That's if such a criminal family baptised their children!!
Would I be able to find out more details of Richard Perry's crime using the reference code Q/AGi 15/4 at Taunton library?
Thanks again for your help,
Mary
I live in Bedford so if there is anything I can do to return the favour......

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Somerset / Richard PERRY in Ilchester jail 1841
« on: Friday 14 March 08 11:34 GMT (UK)  »
I have found Richard Perry born Weymouth about 1816, in the 1841 census in Ilchester jail.   Also in Ilchester jail in the 1841 census is his future mother in law a Sarah Rapson ( Born about 1781). 
Can anyone tell me what they were in jail for?   Hannah had been in jail several times.
I am also struggling to find Richard Perry in the 1851 census.  Can anyone help me. He married Hannah Rapson on 06/12/1856 in Yeovilton and he remained in Yeovilton until he died in 1878.

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